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Originally posted by peplz View PostIf that picture is showing the final punch as it appears to be then this clears up the matter. That punch is clearly and undeniably landing in KKKovalevs gut not below the belt.
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Originally posted by BoxHec View PostYou are right and the same for the Kovalev fans (the Kova'Lovas), imagine all the BS they will say if Ward was at the place of Kovalev
they ALL know that Ward > Kovalev
there is no question
they know
this is just a standard NSB cry-a-thon
the fact that the last punch slipped low, is a technicality
reason being.....
1) Weeks knew that Kovalev was DONE
2) Kovalev turned his back on Ward TWICE in that round
3) he was badly hurt by the bodywork/right-hand
4) he was faking fouls, and looking for a way out
but yea, let's ignore all that and pretend like it never happened
sleazy NSB " lawyers "
trying to get their client off on a technicality
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostIn the second round, Ward hit Kovalev on the belt of his trunks and was told to keep his punches up by Weeks. By the 8th round, Week's definition of a low blow had changed, and it had become ok for Ward to hit Kovalev on the belt, Krusher didn't know that though.
He didn't know that Weeks had changed his mind about what a low blow was, and that Ward was now allowed to hit him, not only on the belt line, but also below the belt in the groin. So when he was hit by what he thought was a low blow, he reacted to it, to let Weeks know he'd been hurt by what he belived was a foul blow.
I've boxed competitively, so I know how that works .. if you're hurt by a legit body shot, you try your best to hide it and act as if you didn't feel anything.
If you're hurt by what you believe to be a low blow, you don't try to hide it, because you want to make sure the ref doesn't allow it to happen again.
A fighter who doubles over after being hit by what he believes to be a low blow is not quitting. Only a couch potato fan who has no idea what the sport is about would view reacting to a percieved foul as quitting.
After being punched in the nuts, Kovalev went down and looked at Weeks. He was obviously waiting for Weeks to do something about it. Krusher was already in trouble from a head head shot when Ward hit him low. Again, and this should be obvious to any knowledgable fan .. if a fighter who is hurt and hanging on for the end of the round gets hit by a foul blow, he is going to view that as a chance to get himself a break and regroup. That's what Kovalev was doing.
Again ..
Why did Weeks take no action on a blatent low blow that happened right in front of his eyes?
you are full of it.....
if you had boxed..... then you would be well-aware that Kovalev KNEW those punches were not low
a veteran professional knows the difference between sharp bodywork and a low blow..... so stop being ridiculous
Sergey had been trying to influence the ref all night, and that was a hangover from the bodywork he got in the first fight
you are full-of-it, and the evidence is here on camera.....
look.....
if you think that Sergey thought those punches were low, you have no idea what you are talking about..... do you know how many rounds that guy has sparred?
Kovalev was either..... 1) hurt..... 2) trying to fake a foul (you decide)
because he KNEW that both of those punches were legit
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Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View PostI'm calling b.s. on your description of the 2nd round low blow. It was below the belt and not on the belt. Video proves that (watched it just now). There should have been no confusion nor were. Just the weak attempts to get points deducted and or rest by reacting as if the blows were low.
Where in boxing do you get to assume a defenseless position if you assume that a foul is gonna get called. I have seen several low blow fouls and never have I seen what Kovalev did during that fight.
Btw...if the fight ended due to the last low blow, since it wasn't intentional Wars would have won by majority decision. The only other option would be a up to 5 minute recovery? So you really think that would have been enough for Kovalev to regain enough steam to survive 3 more rounds?
Correction: Kovalev did complain about punches to the belt which the instructions deemed legal. He even points to his belt line during the complaint.
exactly !!
kafkod is trying to insinuate that Kovalev thought those punches were low
FACT: we can clearly see that they were legit
FACT: Kovalev > us..... he knows more than we do, AND he was there, on the receiving end..... if we can clearly see that those punches were legit, then Kovalev was also well-aware of that
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Originally posted by peplz View PostIf that picture is showing the final punch as it appears to be then this clears up the matter. That punch is clearly and undeniably landing in KKKovalevs gut not below the belt.
pretty sure the last punch was low, so that may not be the pic
absolutely positive that is irrelevant, because Kovalev was done
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Originally posted by peplz View PostIf that picture is showing the final punch as it appears to be then this clears up the matter. That punch is clearly and undeniably landing in KKKovalevs gut not below the belt.
Ward's glove is red, not seen in the pic because it is right between the legs...
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Postexactly !!
kafkod is trying to insinuate that Kovalev thought those punches were low
FACT: we can clearly see that they were legit
FACT: Kovalev > us..... he knows more than we do, AND he was there, on the receiving end..... if we can clearly see that those punches were legit, then Kovalev was also well-aware of that
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Originally posted by Pigeons View PostThat's not the final punch. The final punch was low. But that is one of the first two of three body blows that Ward landed in the final sequence. It shows Kovalev was already doubled over and ready to quit. The final shot, which was low, did not double Kovalev over as he was already in that position from the two previous legal body blows. He was no longer in a position to protect himself and the ref stopped the fight.
That is a pic of the final punch, but the white glove at the gut is Kovalev's own. Most people here made the same mistake when seeing that pic. Ward was wearing red gloves, and his cannot be seen because it is right between Kovalev's legs at that moment...
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostA dead man walking .. are you kidding?
Kovalev was fine till he was hurt by 2 borderline low body punches in the 8th round, then one hard punch to the head, and that was it ... till Ward pushed him to the ropes and hit him with what looked like 3 hard low blows, only one of which was picked up by the camera definitely landing low.
Kovalev wasn't half dead, he was hurt by a foul punch and sat down on the bottom rope waiting for the ref to do something about it. Even if Weeks genuinely didn't see that Kovalev had been fouled, he should have given him a count at that point, not just waved off a fight that was evenly balanced, with the end of the round only seconds away.
Ward was dropped hard in their first fight, but the ref didn't just wave it off, he gave Ward a count and a chance to recover and get back into the fight.
Weeks didn't act on Ward's fouls and he didn't give Kovalev a count because he was doing what you biased hypocrites are always accusing UK refs of doing .. looking for an excuse to stop the fight and give the win to the home fighter.
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