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RING: Ward #1 P4P, Kovalev #7
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Originally posted by boxing_pundit85 View PostYes by resume ward is #1 probably. i agree. I guess we were arguing two different things. Hes got tons of great close wins. I was thinking the very subjective p4p. I like my p4p fighters to be dominant, polished( offensively and defensivelly), and to outlclass their opponents.
I think too often NSB expects Floyd/Corrales type domination and that isn't always going to happen. Staying focused and winning despite being down early is the true mark of a champion IMO.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostFair point but as you fight the top guys that isn't going to happen. Winning a close tough 50/50 fight (like Kov or Ward did in the 1st one) shows a lot IMO.
I think too often NSB expects Floyd/Corrales type domination and that isn't always going to happen. Staying focused and winning despite being down early is the true mark of a champion IMO.
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Originally posted by Luilun View PostPeople don't understand what P4P means it doesn't mean Ward beat Kovaleve so he's number one it means if the fighters were the same size who would win . If Lomachenko was the same size as Ward he would box circles around him so would Rigo
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Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View PostRemember how after the first fight they didn't move Ward up to #1? Roman Gonzalez remained number 1 and Kovalev stayed in the spot right under Ward IIRC. That was probably due to the first fight being so close / debated.
Now Ward stays at #1 (RG bumped down after last fight) and Kovalev is bumped all the way down to #7.
I think they are making a big statement about how they saw Ward and Kovalev's performance in that fight. A few posters will continue to pretend not to notice what everyone else saw before the low blows, but it doesn't matter. They aren't fooling the rest of us.
But I would still say Kovalev #7 is too low.
Now he's proven beyond the shadow of the doubt that he's #1, and Kov is not close. #7 is perfect. I'd have some sort of Ward/Roman/Golovkin/Crawford/Lomachenko around the top5.
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Originally posted by j0zef View PostI agree, that was my thought process exactly. I didn't think either Ward or Kovalev proved enough to dethrone Roman from #1. I also thought that Roman's loss to Rungvisai was mostly BS, so I personally did not drop him on P4P too far. After Roman lost, Ward got the #1 by default, because that was the official decision (agree or disagree).
Now he's proven beyond the shadow of the doubt that he's #1, and Kov is not close. #7 is perfect. I'd have some sort of Ward/Roman/Golovkin/Crawford/Lomachenko around the top5.
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Originally posted by boxing_pundit85 View PostLol, nice burns. When did p4p become exclusively determined by resume? No more eye test? Thats no fun if u ask me.
What eye test man???
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