Got my first dose of UFC last night...

[narbegesicht]

Probably most of the guys that are classified as MMA haters have not seen the fights outside of UFC.

hence the PRIDE HL

[Easy-E]

not really no one just shoots out of the blue there is always a set-up, all you have to do is time the punch and instead of throwing a counter change your levels and take a double leg then the boxer would have no clue as to how to use his gaurd and would be passed then bombs will be dropped on the inexperienced boxer and then the bower will get the bright idea as to just stand back up giving up his back allowing the MMA fight to put him to sleep

you are comparing apples and oranges a pure boxer cannot beat an well rounded MMA fighter in a fight that allows boxing and grappling but take away the grappling aspect and the boxer will still have trouble because the MMA fighter will utilize the leg kicks but take away the kicks and the boxer will kill the MMA fighter

Mike Tyson would seriously injure Royce Graice.
Thats the bottom line, case closed.

[narbegesicht]

Mike Tyson would seriously injure Royce Graice.
Thats the bottom line, case closed.

well we will never know that i thing tyson could seriusly injure royce but only because royce at that time weighed in at 170 and i think royce could have put tyson to sleep only because tyson has no clue about how to stop a choke, put tyson against fedor or cro cop and we have a diffrent story

[guru]

he will have to take a punch in order to get inside, and he cannot take that punch.
he would get killed.

possibly, but its not easy to KO a guy with a punch while he's diving at your knees... look at it this way, MMA guys train all the time to defend against the takedown and they still get takin down in a MMA fight.... so how's a boxer, who's never trained to defend against it gonna do it?

[Memorex]

If u dont like MMA then dont watch it, simple as that. I love boxing and MMA. For the guys that say, MMA is boring , then u just dont get it.

[SuckaPunch]

If u dont like MMA then dont watch it, simple as that. I love boxing and MMA. For the guys that say, MMA is boring , then u just dont get it.

Exactly. Boxing is my favorite sport but anyone who says MMA sucks is dumb.

Being an MMA fighter is the true definition of a "complete" fighter. They know each and every aspect of the fight game. At any weight class, MMA fighters will beat boxers 99% of the time. All boxers will look one-dimentional bums to MMA fighters, because they only know the stand-up game.

[Bonafide]

Exactly. Boxing is my favorite sport but anyone who says MMA sucks is dumb.

Being an MMA fighter is the true definition of a "complete" fighter. They know each and every aspect of the fight game. At any weight class, MMA fighters will beat boxers 99% of the time. All boxers will look one-dimentional bums to MMA fighters, because they only know the stand-up game.

Good Post bro.

Boxing has always been my number 1 but you have to respect MMA as well. Two different sports , but essentially combat. If an MMA guy got in there with a boxer and fought strictly boxing only, he would likely lose. If a boxer got in there with a MMA guy and fought in a Cage with MMA rules he would more than likely be choked out or forced to quit. Plain and simple.

[LionZionist]

how am i being a hypocrite? first off, the point i was trying to make is that this new, hip, wave of fratboy MMA fans on the net can't even recognize boxers as being fighters. that's damn ridiculous!! levander johnson wasn't a fighter? gerald mcclellan wasn't a fighter? benny paret wasn't a fighter? that's what i was gettin' at. i think you missed my point.

mma as we know it has indeed been around for a blink of an eye. you can go on and on and speak about how ancient the components of MMA are, but let's be real here, mma as a modern sport was concieved when mr. rorion gracie little more than a decade ago brought the idea of a no holds barred fight from the vale tudo exhibitions in his homeland to the US in order to showcase his lil' bro royce whoopin' some redneck ass. cus using your logic i can go on to say that boxing predates any of those other martial arts since i'm quite sure **** erectus executed more punches than flying triangles chokes, crescent kicks, and jujigatames.

and given the fact that they were banned completely from television and ppv, yes, my friend, i'd say they were VERY LUCKY to have made it this far.

When did I ever say a boxer wasn't a fighter? I said it's more dangerous. I'm no frat boy mma fan, either. That's like me calling all boxing fans white trash or some ****. I'm no rich-boy, I do go to college, not in a frat, and have been working since I was 14 and had to make money other ways since I was 9.

I NEVER said a boxer wasn't a fighter. I'm just saying that a boxer would get his ass handed to him by a fighter with a ground game. A fencer is still a fighter, but take away the sword and who is he?

[THE REAL NINJA]

Originally Posted by EXIGE
You just systematically broke your own argument down.

It is the very reason why MMA'ers dont have the skill level of a boxer, because they have "a combo of everything". They dont practice as much on one thing, thus meaning they never reach the level that a boxer would, since he concentrates on just one discipline. I have watched all that MMA **** with the ineffective little kicks to the legs and stuff. Anyone with toughness like Tyson would just walk through that and as soon as your foot is raised off the floor all it needs is for him to land one of his concussive bombs and you are out. Better believe.

Corrales/Castillo relates because I never see any MMA dude show that much heart in a fight, nor skill in a fight. Its always over early in MMA, and the dudes they are fighting are complete ****ing nobodies with glass chins. One shot to the dome and they are gone. Try doing that to Castillo" .... .....you have never taken Martial arts in your life have you ? A martial artist could spend his whole life on one move how long does it take to learn a damn jab

[BrooklynBomber]

Originally Posted by EXIGE
You just systematically broke your own argument down.

It is the very reason why MMA'ers dont have the skill level of a boxer, because they have "a combo of everything". They dont practice as much on one thing, thus meaning they never reach the level that a boxer would, since he concentrates on just one discipline. I have watched all that MMA **** with the ineffective little kicks to the legs and stuff. Anyone with toughness like Tyson would just walk through that and as soon as your foot is raised off the floor all it needs is for him to land one of his concussive bombs and you are out. Better believe.

Corrales/Castillo relates because I never see any MMA dude show that much heart in a fight, nor skill in a fight. Its always over early in MMA, and the dudes they are fighting are complete ****ing nobodies with glass chins. One shot to the dome and they are gone. Try doing that to Castillo" .... .....you have never taken Martial arts in your life have you ? A martial artist could spend his whole life on one move how long does it take to learn a damn jab

And what does it says about martial arts?
That its more of a dance than an actually applied skill.
Also, so you might now, but fighter perfects his punches his whole career.