Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux: I'm Tired of Press and Everyone Saying I'm Boring

[CubanGuyNYC]

I'm not even entirely sure why some people find Guillermo Rigondeaux 'boring'. I guess it could be because he isn't a combination / high volume puncher. However, as far as I'm concerned, quality > quantity. If one punch inflicts more damage than 10, then that 1 punch is better.

I will tell you why I find him boring. Rigo will almost never engage unless his opponent engages first. Fine, you prefer to counterpunch; but if your opponent isn't throwing punches, you've got to go out of your comfort zone a little to make the fight happen, especially if you're obviously the superior fighter.

We've all seen Guillermo participate in staring contests with guys who are clearly unwilling to fight, or run around like he did versus Cordoba. Low volume fights can be hard to watch, but I'm personally satisfied if someone like Rigo artfully evades punches and lands a couple of solid shots in return. Staring contests are not boxing. They are not a display of skill. They are boring. It's as simple as that.

[SplitSecond]

Rigo was super slick vs this lanky guy. When the guy punches he's a thing of beauty to watch, hopefully he'll be more active from now on or atleast get fights vs guys coming to win, before he's shot.

[MDPopescu]

That's what I'm getting at. Despite being the much bigger man, Flores didn't appear to have a prayer. His only chance was a KO. And the way it looked, he would've needed a lot of luck to land a solid blow. Rigo himself only landed two punches in the fight. Both of them hard.

... that's what he usually does (look at his punch stats...)

[otrocubiche]

I will tell you why I find him boring. Rigo will almost never engage unless his opponent engages first. Fine, you prefer to counterpunch; but if your opponent isn't throwing punches, you've got to go out of your comfort zone a little to make the fight happen, especially if you're obviously the superior fighter.

We've all seen Guillermo participate in staring contests with guys who are clearly unwilling to fight, or run around like he did versus Cordoba. Low volume fights can be hard to watch, but I'm personally satisfied if someone like Rigo artfully evades punches and lands a couple of solid shots in return. Staring contests are not boxing. They are not a display of skill. They are boring. It's as simple as that.

That's exactly what bothers me, with his hand and food speed and movement he could easily go forward evading punches and connecting more and entertaining more.
That first round ******, nothing happen till 3:01 eventhough he said he was going to take the initiative, stand in the middle, etc, etc, if it weren't for that punch after the bell it would have been several boring rounds till he could get a good counter or 12 rounds of complete boredom.

[CubanGuyNYC]

That's exactly what bothers me, with his hand and food speed and movement he could easily go forward evading punches and connecting more and entertaining more.
That first round ******, nothing happen till 3:01 eventhough he said he was going to take the initiative, stand in the middle, etc, etc, if it weren't for that punch after the bell it would have been several boring rounds till he could get a good counter or 12 rounds of complete boredom.

Thank you!

The Donaire fight was a perfect example of what Rigo's capable of. He did that against a top P4P fighter, but he won't even try against a lesser guy? It makes no sense, and it's why Rigo has so few fans.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Rigo is not boring. if he was white, everyone would love him.

Yeah, like how super popular GGG is--- oh wait.

If he was Mexican or Black, he'd be a lot more popular and hyped up. Unfortunately, he's white and not from America, but we know races in boxing all are biased towards their own, right ��

[THC]

Despite the low punch output it's always a treat to watch Rigo's skills.

The aftermath, however, showed me why boxing is sometimes a circus in the way it's managed. Referee Drakulich was going on about Rigo's holding behind the head which was unrelated to the KO. The NSAC head was useless. Robert Byrd focusing on the punch after the bell was the only bright spot. Ultimately they all should have gone straight to the replays and made a quick decision on the rules: NC. At minimum Drakulich himself should have reviewed the replays before rendering a decision.

[Banko Villas]

Yeah, like how super popular GGG is--- oh wait.

If he was Mexican or Black, he'd be a lot more popular and hyped up. Unfortunately, he's white and not from America, but we know canvases I'm boxing all are biased towards their own, right 🙄

Golovkin was an extremely boring fighter until he fought Jacobs. It was so boring to watch him destroy one weak opponent after another, like Wilder. I want to see quality fights between quality opponents. Otherwise, even the knockouts get boring.

[DannYankee]

His hands where very much not fking down this kid is shady as hell in my eyes since the dive Rigo just puts the fear of God in these fools no matter how tough they think they are.

If Rigo wants to people to stop saying he is boring he should have his people have him fight more than once every hundred years and doing fights clearly for the money in who gives a fk land. His best most action packed fights most have been away from the big lights it's like he has the opposite mentality when all eyes on him he is content to toy with a guy he could take out for 12 rounds when he is in fking Japan fighting a 6 feet tall monster that can hit him from across the ring only then it's time to go all out . The fk dude.

[Mr Objecitivity]

I will tell you why I find him boring. Rigo will almost never engage unless his opponent engages first. Fine, you prefer to counterpunch; but if your opponent isn't throwing punches, you've got to go out of your comfort zone a little to make the fight happen, especially if you're obviously the superior fighter.

We've all seen Guillermo participate in staring contests with guys who are clearly unwilling to fight, or run around like he did versus Cordoba. Low volume fights can be hard to watch, but I'm personally satisfied if someone like Rigo artfully evades punches and lands a couple of solid shots in return. Staring contests are not boxing. They are not a display of skill. They are boring. It's as simple as that.

Rigo will almost never engage unless his opponent engages first.

That's actually untrue! The simple fact that Guillermo Rigondeaux has already fought and beat opponents who don't engage much 'first' debunks that argument. Otherwise, how would Rigo beat those opponents who don't engage first? The answer is, Rigo actually does. However, they're subtle and not very explicit. Rigo forces his opponents to engage or make a mistake that he can capitalize on. What you could claim is that Rigo doesn't 'engage' too much, which is true. However, he does engage. It's just that he is very minimal in the things he does.

Engaging doesn't mean you have to throw punches in volumes / combinations explicitly on an opponent who isn't engaging. It can just mean feinting and forcing a reaction out of the opponent and then just landing one major / significant / damaging punch.

When Guillermo Rigondeaux broke the jaw of ****ens, he did so whilst ****ens wasn't 'engaging'. He threw his punch proactively whilst ****ens wasn't doing much to 'engage' offensively.

Fine, you prefer to counterpunch; but if your opponent isn't throwing punches, you've got to go out of your comfort zone a little to make the fight happen, especially if you're obviously the superior fighter.

These are things he does do. It's just that when he does so, he isn't very explicit. It's very subtle. Thus, they can easily be missed by someone who's understanding / knowledge of boxing isn't high enough.

We've all seen Guillermo participate in staring contests with guys who are clearly unwilling to fight

It's PATIENCE, not 'staring' contests. Also, he has beaten such opponents and more often than not, destroyed them. How could he do that if he wasn't 'engaging'?

Rigondeaux may throw very few punches against such opponents, but when he does land, the punches usually inflict significant damage upon the opponents. Certainly more damage than his opponents can inflict upon him.

r run around like he did versus Cordoba.

It's not possible to 'run' inside the boxing ring and if you mean to SURVIVE, then it's far from the truth!

Guillermo Rigondeaux has never fought an opponent with the intention of purely surviving like how Andre Ward did against Sergey Kovalev. Rigondeaux generally inflicts significant damage upon his opponents. You can't do this if you're only looking to SURVIVE.

Low volume fights can be hard to watch, but I'm personally satisfied if someone like Rigo artfully evades punches and lands a couple of solid shots in return.

Which is something Rigo generally does. Low volume or high volume isn't much relevant to me. It's damage inflicted which matters more and is a bigger indication of 'skill'.

If one boxer throws one punch and breaks their opponent's jaw, whilst another boxer throws hundreds of punches but doesn't inflict anywhere near the same damage, that 1 punch is more significant, skillful and more impressive than those hundreds of punches.

Thus, I prefer Rigondeaux's low volume style more than Tyson Fury's or Joe Calzaghe's high volume style of boxing.

If a boxer is throwing low volume and isn't inflicting much damage upon the opposition because they are purposefully punching with extremely less power like how Ward did against Kovalev the first fight, then I'd have a problem as that's an indication of 'less skill' and 'negative boxing'. Boxing has to generally be about damage inflicted upon the opponents.

Staring contests are not boxing. They are not a display of skill. They are boring. It's as simple as that.

You're probably confusing 'staring' with patience.

When opponents are in their defensive shell, patience is required to penetrate it. So it may look like the boxers are only 'staring' at each other