Just Watched Mayweather-Pacquiao Again

[hugh grant]

F!oyds retired and his fans trying to keep him relevant.
Whether you think Floyd lost or even won. That wasn't a great Floyd performance

[Panopticon]

I honestly think Pacquiao would have beat him cleanly if Mayweather wasn't allowed to use spoiling tactics for the entire fight. You don't "outbox" a guy by holding, pushing, using your forearm on their face, pulling down behind the head and putting your opponent in a headlock to offset their attacks. That's not a masterful boxing performance that's just dirty tactics. You beat them with good defense and effective punches. Bayless should have warned and penalized Floyd for it. Wlad vs Jennings is a good example of how different a fight can look when a fighter isn't allowed to hold on every exchange anymore and is threatened with points being taken away. Wlad still won but he had to work harder for it and took a lot more punches in the process. There are great fighters who never clinch or only do so when they are hurt. The type of stuff you saw from Floyd late in his career especially Madiana 2 is just down right excessive and only in Vegas can he get away with that crap.

After Manny got his timing and started slipping Floyd's 1 and 2 punch attacks Floyd has no answers for what was coming in return other than to hold the shit out of him so the ref can come in and save him. I think if he were warned against the spoiling tactics he would have been open for some good punches or serious exchanges and things would have been tougher for him. The type of situation you want to see great fighters in to see what they are made of.

Floyd doesn't fight fire with fire like Marquez does. Most of his counter punching is on the front end of his opponents attacks rather than at the end. He rarely misses his pull counters or sharp left hooks that he throws when he knows his opponent is coming in...so to see Pacquaio slipping them and sometimes landing good counters in return was very interesting to see. Injured or not, in retrospect one thing I underrated was Pac's effort. At the time, I was severely disappointed with him because compare to what Maidana did to Floyd in two Pac's fight looked pretty weak. There just weren't enough punches landed by either guy.

[Robbie Barrett]

Mayweather was in cruise control the entire fight. Pacquiao didn't bring the fight.

[Robbie Barrett]

I honestly think Pacquiao would have beat him cleanly if Mayweather wasn't allowed to use spoiling tactics for the entire fight. You don't "outbox" a guy by holding, pushing, using your forearm on their face, pulling down behind the head and putting your opponent in a headlock to offset their attacks. That's not a masterful boxing performance that's just dirty tactics. You beat them with good defense and effective punches. Bayless should have warned and penalized Floyd for it. Wlad vs Jennings is a good example of how different a fight can look when a fighter isn't allowed to hold on every exchange anymore and is threatened with points being taken away. Wlad still won but he had to work harder for it and took a lot more punches in the process. There are great fighters who never clinch or only do so when they are hurt. The type of stuff you saw from Floyd late in his career especially Madiana 2 is just down right excessive and only in Vegas can he get away with that crap.

After Manny got his timing and started slipping Floyd's 1 and 2 punch attacks Floyd has no answers for what was coming in return other than to hold the shit out of him so the ref can come in and save him. I think if he were warned against the spoiling tactics he would have been open for some good punches or serious exchanges and things would have been tougher for him. The type of situation you want to see great fighters in to see what they are made of.

Floyd doesn't fight fire with fire like Marquez does. Most of his counter punching is on the front end of his opponents attacks rather than at the end. He rarely misses his pull counters or sharp left hooks that he throws when he knows his opponent is coming in...so to see Pacquaio slipping them and sometimes landing good counters in return was very interesting to see. Injured or not, in retrospect one thing I underrated was Pac's effort. At the time, I was severely disappointed with him because compare to what Maidana did to Floyd in two Pac's fight looked pretty weak. There just weren't enough punches landed by either guy.

There was barely any holding, no more than the average fight. You need to watch more fights.

[Spoon23]

I honestly think Pacquiao would have beat him cleanly if Mayweather wasn't allowed to use spoiling tactics for the entire fight. You don't "outbox" a guy by holding, pushing, using your forearm on their face, pulling down behind the head and putting your opponent in a headlock to offset their attacks. That's not a masterful boxing performance that's just dirty tactics. You beat them with good defense and effective punches. Bayless should have warned and penalized Floyd for it. Wlad vs Jennings is a good example of how different a fight can look when a fighter isn't allowed to hold on every exchange anymore and is threatened with points being taken away. Wlad still won but he had to work harder for it and took a lot more punches in the process. There are great fighters who never clinch or only do so when they are hurt. The type of stuff you saw from Floyd late in his career especially Madiana 2 is just down right excessive and only in Vegas can he get away with that crap.

After Manny got his timing and started slipping Floyd's 1 and 2 punch attacks Floyd has no answers for what was coming in return other than to hold the shit out of him so the ref can come in and save him. I think if he were warned against the spoiling tactics he would have been open for some good punches or serious exchanges and things would have been tougher for him. The type of situation you want to see great fighters in to see what they are made of.

Floyd doesn't fight fire with fire like Marquez does. Most of his counter punching is on the front end of his opponents attacks rather than at the end. He rarely misses his pull counters or sharp left hooks that he throws when he knows his opponent is coming in...so to see Pacquaio slipping them and sometimes landing good counters in return was very interesting to see. Injured or not, in retrospect one thing I underrated was Pac's effort. At the time, I was severely disappointed with him because compare to what Maidana did to Floyd in two Pac's fight looked pretty weak. There just weren't enough punches landed by either guy.

You my friend have so much wisdom.

Cheers!

[Reloaded]

F!oyds retired and his fans trying to keep him relevant.
Whether you think Floyd lost or even won. That wasn't a great Floyd performance

lol , you haters cant keep Floyd outa your mouth, you lot keep him more relevant than his fans do hahaha

[Reloaded]

You my friend have so much wisdom.

Cheers!

Says the Stone to the Garden Gnome .

[Jsmooth9876]

Floyd fans say he put on a masterclass which is ridiculous, and some crazy fans say PAC won which is even more ridiculous. Truth is, it was a very technical fight from both guys and was fairly competitive throughout. I thought Manny landed the more telling blows throughout the fight but he didn't win rounds by doing that. Floyd controlled the distance with his length but Manny did some good counter work over Floyds jab which kept Floyd from being too aggressive like he gets against some of the Guerrero, Berto, Ortiz level opponents.

Manny couldn't fight as aggressive as usual, first off because he got KTFO by Marquez and hasn't been the same since and secondly because Floyd hit him early with some counter shots and that threw him right off early on. So he fought timid but still did decent work.

Love guys in here who pick apart Manny fans for seeing a 7-5 fight but then turn around and say Floyd won 11-1 or 10-2 and put on some kind of clinic and was cruising all night. Pretty sure he had to work hard every round just to do as little as he did to win the fight over Manny. Nut huggers on each side see things they want to see I guess.

[HarvardBlue]

For all the people saying Floyd wasn't in control of the fight or didn't put on clinic need to ask themselves have you ever watched Pacquiao fight before? Mayweather made one of the most offensive fighters tentative and confused. Yes Pacquiao handled himself well but it doesn't mean he won or in any was close to winning. Even against Marquez Pacquiao was still able to perform well offensively. Against Mayweather he couldn't. The reason he couldn't was because of Mayweather's skills. Pacquiao was never as skilled as Mayweather but he had some attributes that made better than his actual skills.

[Xi_]

118-110 easy work......floyd made manny fight like a b1tch cause he was afraid of Floyd's right hand.