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  • Code Red
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    Just Watched Mayweather-Pacquiao Again

    After two years of watching mediocre current fighters I decided to rewatch Mayweather-Pacquiao, a fight I only watched once live and never bothered with a replay (except a few highlights here and there.) I was always surprised how any fight fan could argue that Pac won the fight or that the scores should of been closer.

    While rewatching the fight I was reminded by how great a fighter Floyd truly is. Pacquiao was completely at a loss on what to do to in that ring. Floyd was in complete control from the opening bell, his movement and actions dictated everything Pacquiao did. Floyd's right hand was a master class....a lot of fighters can not throw the right hand as quickly and sharply as Floyd. Against southpaw's lesser fighters lunge and fall in when they throw the right. Floyd can literally throw the right hand like a jab and never lose his balance or footing.

    In addition to Pac not avoiding Floyd's right, Manny also struggled with Floyd's jab....how often do you see an orthodox fighter land as many jabs on Pac as Floyd did? Most guys cant land a jab on Pac at all! If that wasn't bad enough the footwork, Floyd's legs and feet are probably his greatest asset, he moves around the ring like it's a natural habitat. No part of the ring is a dangerous place for him to be, he knows exactly what move to make at every angle of the ring.

    Yet it didn't stop there, adding to that Floyd's upper body movement was sensational, he constantly moves his head and body giving Pac the smallest target to fire at. Whether he was on the front foot or back foot he knew how to twist and contort his upper body to stay out of striking distance of Pac's fists. And if that wasn't enough brilliance, Floyd knows exactly when to clinch, exactly when to push off, exactly when to grab his opponent if necessary.

    To Pac's credit he has great stamina and did not noticeably wilt like many of Floyd's opponents who become clearly frustrated and start to make mistakes. Pac was frustrated but he did not make the kind of mistakes that allowed Floyd to tee off or go inside to try to break him down.

    Overall Pac was out of his depth in facing Floyd, way too much skill, way too many tactics, way too much experience for Pacquiao to overcome. I ultimately scored the fight 10-2 and even in those rounds were Pac scored flurries, Floyd was still having his way with Pac in the middle of the ring.

    Most interesting of all is that the HBO commentators pretty much were silent on Pacquiao they reacted to everything Floyd did like he was the HBO fighter. Then again I can understand why, Floyd was masterful that night.
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    #2
    Floyd landed those two right hand counters in the first and Pac fought scared the entire rest of the way.

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    • daggum
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      everything you said was wrong. good try though? did you watch the fight on a potato?

      yes floyd can throw a good right hand. the reason he doesnt get off balance is because he puts nothing on it. its an arm punch. let me guess that counts as much as when pac would catch floyd flush with his left and rock his head/entire body back?

      floyds jab often fell short or just grazed pac. how is that an effective punch? you should be giving pac credit for defense for avoiding it so brilliantly but instead you give floyd credit for ineffective offense. the only arugment you can make about floyds jab is it kept pac at bay except there were almost never any follow up clean shots from floyd while there were definitely clean shots from pac thus rendering his keep at bay jab ineffective. i can make a whole breakdown of why floyd probably kept throwing that jab short, if you notice pac was catching it and coming back with a blazing left hand coutner that floyd was worried. for that reason he was tentative and hesitant to really stick it in pacs face out of fear of the counter. none of my analysis or yours should matter as to why it happened. what should be scored is what did happen yet many people dont do that...

      yes floyd has good defense/movement but what good did that do him as he got caught with the much cleaner sharper punches throughout the fight. also you praise him for grabbing. thats illegal. you dont get points for doing illegal things otherwise golota would have a bunch of lowblow ko's to his record. instead of giving the guy who was hit much less cleanly praise for his defense you give it to floyd for moving his body in a fancy interesting way. once again the substance is ignored over style.

      how was floyd having his way with pac in the middle of the ring? i suggest you watch who is actually landing the clean punches. most of the time its pac so how can you be having your way when you are being hit much cleaner? theres a whole youtube series that breaks down the rounds in more detail that could help you see this. fighting in the middle of the ring doesnt give floyd the auto-win. he still has to land cleaner effective punches than pac did. did he do that? no he did not so that argument doesnt make a whole lot of sense. the location of where the fight was fought has no bearing on who is winning. its about punches. if you graze me with a couple jabs but i pop you flush in the head with a couple power shots did you have your way with me cause we fought at your house?

      the commentators were trash and were suckered in by floyds reputation just like a lot of people that watched the fight. instead of paying attention to the punches they did precisely what you did. gave floyd credit for things that might soudn or look nice but did they produce credible results? the answer was a resounding no.

      you say 10-2 but the fight has been studied and rounds 3,4, and 6-10 pac landed as many or more punches. compubox was off as always. pac also landed the much cleaner harder shots. now obv what a clean hard shot is is debatable but its impossible to say floyd was the one doing that in these rounds. the disparity was crystal clear. pac was stepping into his shots and rocking floyds head back. floyd was not doing that.

      another reason pac won these roudns is that even though the lands were often nearly even the majority of flyods landed shots were jabs and the majority of pacs were power shots, and the jabs floyd usually landed were not the ggg snap your head back kind but the floyd tickle your nose kind.

      your post is a good example of someone seeing what they want to see or seeing what the narrative wants them to see instead of focusing on the actual punches and where they landed.
      Last edited by daggum; 06-12-2017, 10:18 PM.

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      • Spoon23
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        Welcome to bizzaro world where up is down and right is left lololol

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          Daggum and spoon make boxing fans look pathetic. I mean it's cool to be a Floyd hater but the equivalent of a flat earth believer or an ***** birther is a little too much.

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          • Hatesrats
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            Have u watched it... TV/or Whatever the fugg u watch your media on doe on off mode????
            (Spoiler Alert: Floyd wins)
            Last edited by Hatesrats; 06-12-2017, 10:26 PM.

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            • Fay
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              Watch it on slow mo doe PAC wins on slow mo 😂

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              • danceswithfire
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                translation: i watched the fight again and found out how much of a nuthugger i am

                7- 5 floyd , don't have a problem with 8-4, that's just 1 round difference really but truth is the fight was more competitive than scores...

                "reach" played a good role on the outcome imo..surprised to see pac land his own version of the pullcounter tho....

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                  Pacquiao won that fight. Anyone that's being real with themselves know that deep in their heart.

                  Pac landed all the impactful, and meaningful punches in the fight, and got almost no credit for it. While I was watching it, I was just sitting there like, hold on, am i getting punk'd by the HBO commentators? Are they really saying Floyd's winning the fight? No way in Hell Floyd won that fight.

                  And Floyd was clearly the bigger fighter in the ring, and still back peddled the whole night like a hoe. Think about it. Floyd almost never backs up against a southpaw, and almost always initiates, and walks his opponent down, if they're a southpaw. He was deathly afraid of Pacquiao all night, and it's not because of his reputation. It's because Floyd was tasting power shots all night, from angles he couldn't see them coming from, and he was hesitant as a *****.

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                    Originally posted by daggum
                    everything you said was wrong. good try though? did you watch the fight on a potato?

                    yes floyd can throw a good right hand. the reason he doesnt get off balance is because he puts nothing on it. its an arm punch. let me guess that counts as much as when pac would catch floyd flush with his left and rock his head/entire body back?

                    floyds jab often fell short or just grazed pac. how is that an effective punch? you should be giving pac credit for defense for avoiding it so brilliantly but instead you give floyd credit for ineffective offense. the only arugment you can make about floyds jab is it kept pac at bay except there were almost never any follow up clean shots from floyd while there were definitely clean shots from pac thus rendering his keep at bay jab ineffective. i can make a whole breakdown of why floyd probably kept throwing that jab short, if you notice pac was catching it and coming back with a blazing left hand coutner that floyd was worried. for that reason he was tentative and hesitant to really stick it in pacs face out of fear of the counter. none of my analysis or yours should matter as to why it happened. what should be scored is what did happen yet many people dont do that...

                    yes floyd has good defense/movement but what good did that do him as he got caught with the much cleaner sharper punches throughout the fight. also you praise him for grabbing. thats illegal. you dont get points for doing illegal things otherwise golota would have a bunch of lowblow ko's to his record. instead of giving the guy who was hit much less cleanly praise for his defense you give it to floyd for moving his body in a fancy interesting way. once again the substance is ignored over style.

                    how was floyd having his way with pac in the middle of the ring? i suggest you watch who is actually landing the clean punches. most of the time its pac so how can you be having your way when you are being hit much cleaner? theres a whole youtube series that breaks down the rounds in more detail that could help you see this. fighting in the middle of the ring doesnt give floyd the auto-win. he still has to land cleaner effective punches than pac did. did he do that? no he did not so that argument doesnt make a whole lot of sense. the location of where the fight was fought has no bearing on who is winning. its about punches. if you graze me with a couple jabs but i pop you flush in the head with a couple power shots did you have your way with me cause we fought at your house?

                    the commentators were trash and were suckered in by floyds reputation just like a lot of people that watched the fight. instead of paying attention to the punches they did precisely what you did. gave floyd credit for things that might soudn or look nice but did they produce credible results? the answer was a resounding no.

                    you say 10-2 but the fight has been studied and rounds 3,4, and 6-10 pac landed as many or more punches. compubox was off as always. pac also landed the much cleaner harder shots. now obv what a clean hard shot is is debatable but its impossible to say floyd was the one doing that in these rounds. the disparity was crystal clear. pac was stepping into his shots and rocking floyds head back. floyd was not doing that.

                    another reason pac won these roudns is that even though the lands were often nearly even the majority of flyods landed shots were jabs and the majority of pacs were power shots, and the jabs floyd usually landed were not the ggg snap your head back kind but the floyd tickle your nose kind.

                    your post is a good example of someone seeing what they want to see or seeing what the narrative wants them to see instead of focusing on the actual punches and where they landed.
                    Oh, the irony.

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