Just Watched Mayweather-Pacquiao Again

[BrometheusBob.]

>Just watched Mayweather-Pacquiao again
Why did you do that to yourself?

Never went back and rewatched it. Saw it live that night (with the rest of the world), and I will admit that I was f**king hammered during it, but my round by round score (give or take a round) fell in line mostly with everyone else's.

**** if I recall correctly I thought it was 3-3 after six, and then either 5-1 or 6-0 Floyd the rest of the way. So yeah 8-4 or 9-3. Something like that.

I will say this though: there were a lot of rounds that were very close rounds. A lot of swing rounds. Manny truly had a chance to steal several rounds in that fight that went Floyd's way, but Manny was sooooooooo hesitant of Floyd countering him to death that he didn't even barely f**king try. Thus all those nondescript, low activity rounds from both guys went to Floyd. And I'm not saying that those were purely 50/50 rounds -- I think Floyd did just enough to take those rounds I'm talking about. But Manny didn't even give himself a chance. I mean in several of those Floyd won rounds he was winning them by literally a few good jabs.

Great post

[Code Red]

Now, OP, it is time for me to translate your post into what certain others take away from it.



"All Floyd did was RUN!"



Cue Skip Bayless:
"The little rat-a-tat punches, it's NOT ENOUGH!! IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO WIN THE FIGHT!!"



Cue Skip Bayless:

"All that I saw, that Floyd Mayweather did, was he mostly RAN, and he DANCED, and he ROPE-A-DOPED! After he blasted the great Muhammad Ali!"



"Floyd paid off the judges."

You pretty much nailed it, exactly what those who don't know sh-t about would see!

[RussB23]

I remember in the first round pac tried coming in aggressive and floyd nailed him with a straight right against the ropes. Pac was way too cautious the rest of the fight after that. Should have just went all out like the old pac and it would have been a more exciting fight. Thats really what dissapointed me about that fight is that neither fighter really tried to take risks, its kind of expected from floyd because thats how he fights but i really thought pac should have pushed the action more. He let his fans down.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

everything you said was wrong. good try though? did you watch the fight on a potato?

yes floyd can throw a good right hand. the reason he doesnt get off balance is because he puts nothing on it. its an arm punch. let me guess that counts as much as when pac would catch floyd flush with his left and rock his head/entire body back?

floyds jab often fell short or just grazed pac. how is that an effective punch? you should be giving pac credit for defense for avoiding it so brilliantly but instead you give floyd credit for ineffective offense. the only arugment you can make about floyds jab is it kept pac at bay except there were almost never any follow up clean shots from floyd while there were definitely clean shots from pac thus rendering his keep at bay jab ineffective. i can make a whole breakdown of why floyd probably kept throwing that jab short, if you notice pac was catching it and coming back with a blazing left hand coutner that floyd was worried. for that reason he was tentative and hesitant to really stick it in pacs face out of fear of the counter. none of my analysis or yours should matter as to why it happened. what should be scored is what did happen yet many people dont do that...

yes floyd has good defense/movement but what good did that do him as he got caught with the much cleaner sharper punches throughout the fight. also you praise him for grabbing. thats illegal. you dont get points for doing illegal things otherwise golota would have a bunch of lowblow ko's to his record. instead of giving the guy who was hit much less cleanly praise for his defense you give it to floyd for moving his body in a fancy interesting way. once again the substance is ignored over style.

how was floyd having his way with pac in the middle of the ring? i suggest you watch who is actually landing the clean punches. most of the time its pac so how can you be having your way when you are being hit much cleaner? theres a whole youtube series that breaks down the rounds in more detail that could help you see this. fighting in the middle of the ring doesnt give floyd the auto-win. he still has to land cleaner effective punches than pac did. did he do that? no he did not so that argument doesnt make a whole lot of sense. the location of where the fight was fought has no bearing on who is winning. its about punches. if you graze me with a couple jabs but i pop you flush in the head with a couple power shots did you have your way with me cause we fought at your house?

the commentators were trash and were suckered in by floyds reputation just like a lot of people that watched the fight. instead of paying attention to the punches they did precisely what you did. gave floyd credit for things that might soudn or look nice but did they produce credible results? the answer was a resounding no.

you say 10-2 but the fight has been studied and rounds 3,4, and 6-10 pac landed as many or more punches. compubox was off as always. pac also landed the much cleaner harder shots. now obv what a clean hard shot is is debatable but its impossible to say floyd was the one doing that in these rounds. the disparity was crystal clear. pac was stepping into his shots and rocking floyds head back. floyd was not doing that.

another reason pac won these roudns is that even though the lands were often nearly even the majority of flyods landed shots were jabs and the majority of pacs were power shots, and the jabs floyd usually landed were not the ggg snap your head back kind but the floyd tickle your nose kind.

your post is a good example of someone seeing what they want to see or seeing what the narrative wants them to see instead of focusing on the actual punches and where they landed.

daggum with the ether

[bojangles1987]

Never went back and rewatched it. Saw it live that night (with the rest of the world), and I will admit that I was f**king hammered during it, but my round by round score (give or take a round) fell in line mostly with everyone else's.

**** if I recall correctly I thought it was 3-3 after six, and then either 5-1 or 6-0 Floyd the rest of the way. So yeah 8-4 or 9-3. Something like that.

I will say this though: there were a lot of rounds that were very close rounds. A lot of swing rounds. Manny truly had a chance to steal several rounds in that fight that went Floyd's way, but Manny was sooooooooo hesitant of Floyd countering him to death that he didn't even barely f**king try. Thus all those nondescript, low activity rounds from both guys went to Floyd. And I'm not saying that those were purely 50/50 rounds -- I think Floyd did just enough to take those rounds I'm talking about. But Manny didn't even give himself a chance. I mean in several of those Floyd won rounds he was winning them by literally a few good jabs.

Great breakdown, and honestly EVERYONE should have seen it coming. I sure as hell did. Other than Marquez 4, Pac had not shown the kind of fire he needed to push Mayweather in years. Mayweather just kind of fought a hesitant cruise control fight, and Pac was happy to let him and collect his giant check. These two didn't want to fight, they wanted to collect those checks after screwing fans for half a decade.

What a horribly disappointing fight. Neither guy took any kind of risk, it was a ****ing exhibition match where both guys were happy to spar for 12 rounds. Neither walked away from that fight looking good.

[ShoulderRoll]

The two right hands in the first round set the tone. They were pinpoint accurate and clean sniper shots, you could almost see Pacquiao thinking "what the hell?"

To me the biggest surprise was Floyd's superiority in footwork. Given his age and Pac's crazy angles I was expecting Floyd to have some difficulty. But his movement was smart and smooth and kept Pac under control...
he even seemed to have the faster feet although that could just be that he knew how to step in the right place at the right time.

[satiev1]

It was a close fight. All floyd did was tap manny more than manny tapped him. Not dominating at all.

[SkillspayBills]

Floyd landed those two right hand counters in the first and Pac fought scared the entire rest of the way.

Literally. I was like "wtf dude I know he doesn't hit that damn hard." Pac fought tentatively for the rest of the fight because of it.

[Chuckguy]

Literally. I was like "wtf dude I know he doesn't hit that damn hard." Pac fought tentatively for the rest of the fight because of it.

Floyd can thank jmm for that.
PAC set traps that Floyd fell for over and over again but PAC was too fawking gun shy

[SkillspayBills]

It's been two years and people are still salty as hell about the fight like it was yesterday lol. **** even Manny is still salty about it.