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  • Spoon23
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    #81
    Originally posted by Mike D
    Looking back I was pretty delusional going into it -- I really thought that Manny would lay it on the line and take a lot of risks. Obviously a massive, brutal KO like the one he suffered, that **** is inevitable that it will change you, and I understood him being much more cautious and calculated in the bouts leading up to the Mayweather fight because he needed to win all of those to get the Floyd fight -- but once he finally got to that point I thought he'd at least go out on his shield. I truly believed that, lol. Maybe it was just me wanting to believe that.

    What disgusted me as Pacquiao fan was this: He didn't even give himself a shot to win the fight. You're not going to beat Floyd by fighting his f**king fight. Trying to pick your spots and be calculating with the best calculating pick your spots boxer in the world -- lmao what the f**k kinda game plan is that?? So let's say Manny lets his hands go and gets countered to death and loses badly anyway...well at least we could say that the motherf**ker tried. I woulda been much more accepting of that.

    But actually attempting LESS punches than Floyd...lmao I was f**king stunned.
    If you wanted him to waste punches, and get countered to death. That to me is ****** way of playing Floyd. That's what Floyd wanted his opponents to do waste alot of punches, and time his opponents to death. What Pac did was brilliant.

    If for all who think manny wasnt doing anything in the ring against floyd cause he didnt throw a ton of punches like he normally does....there is a golden rule when you box someone like floyd....dont play his game. Floyd wants you to throw wasted punches. Manny studied floyd pretty smart imo cause a smart fighter knows when you got a runner who plays defense dont waste punches or your gonna punch yourself out. That is what floyd banks on saving his best punches when he sees the other is tiring out from all the punches that went nowhere. He had no choice to run, hug, headlock and all from manny....he wasting wasting a lot of his punches.

    As floyd hoped he would. Which is why manny kept up with him in stamina all 12 rounds, had floyd flurried in all 4 corners of the match and rounds. His option was to hold him. Thats a smart but seriously lame tactic. Floyds jabs thrown mostly in all his percetage hit pacs gloves...not face or body. But for some reason judges counted them as hits?


    Just because he wasn't the whirlwind that night. Pac shouldn't deserve the win even if he actually outlanded Floyd for 12 rounds. Who said Pac had to do more than that? Who changed the rules of this game? Last time I checked the one who outlanded his opponent more, and did more hurt in the hurt business while controlling the center of the ring is the true winner.



    Why do they put Pac in such high standards? This is not a game of who should look there best and remains faithful to their fighting style will win. This is the game of who connects more with lethal intent wins this game. And showing control of the center of the ring is what counts as someone who knows what pro fight is about.

    All of that was Pac. As proven by Floyd running around like a headless duck for 12 ***** rounds, who can't get settled, since Pac keeps on coming.


    And Punch stats were found to be fluke. Pac boxing FLoyd wasn't spectacular to some, but in a closer look at the rewind. Pac did enough to win this fight. Pac outlanded the so called counter-puncher, and not only that, he put the most hurt in the hurt business, which is what pro fighting is about. It may not be the whirlwind that we wanted, but with his right shoulder injury he still was the aggressor and was the guy who landed more through out the fight, and not only that PAc was the ring general of the fight, as he commanded the center of the ring.

    You have to realize one wanted to fight, while the other wanted to run and hug. A fight can only happen if the 2 combatants want to mix it up. The only variety Floyd wanted to do that night was to run and hug in an energy diffusing bore-fest. You can't blame Pac for trying especially with an injured right shoulder he still pressed on and was being aggressive the whole night. And everytime Pac was nearing Floyd. Floyd will stay on the ropes, and every time pac was in the kill-zone range, Floyd rather than to exchange with pac chose to clinch everytime to prevent the fight from ever turning into a true super fight. We do know it takes 2 to tango. If one guy just wanted to survive hoping that the judges will save him for his *****ness. We cannot expect a good fight to happen.

    THE RING GENERAL THAT NIGHT


    Here's an in depth view of who was the ring general that night. We all know the one in the center of the ring for most of the rounds is the ring general. Ring general is the 2nd most important scoring criteria used by judges if the judge can't figure who connected more. They go to who was in control of the center. Let's see the heat Map who was more in the center.

    You can see the yellow ball is always chasing the blue ball and the yellow ball is always trying to chase the coward blue ball. Is the blue ball scared of the yellow ball. It looks to me that the blue ball dont have any balls to chase the yellow ball. Somebody was doing a whole lot of running...

    Guess who is the blue ball?



    example of fake ass compubox

    Round 3 fluke, showing how biased compubox for the hometown boy


    Round 3 video (unedited all 3 minutes punch connects of the 3rd round )

    All those whimper jab shots Floyd threw was counted and still in the third round you can't find more than 6 shots floyd landed. Compubox padded him with 15 lol

    Round 3:

    compubox gave Floyd 15 shots.

    When it was actually just 6 lol

    compubox gave Pac 5 shots

    when it's actually 9

    # corruption in Vegas at it's best



    # If someone needs to redeem himself it's Floyd

    # Floyd won a Fluke win

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    • Spoon23
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      #82
      Oh the irony, I think Floyd knows it's excessive since he hugs more than Khan lmao

      Floyd says about Amhir:

      Here's his take on Amir Khan "I don't know too much about Amir Khan.I think he does too much running and HOLDING.I honestly feel he should have got disqualified" *Foyd Mayweather Jr.

      He must see himself in khan lol


      You don't prevent an opponent from countering by hugging. That's just not boxing. too much fouling by Floyd and not a single point deduction from Bayless tsk tsk tsk...

      STICK AND MOVE FLOYD. NOT STICK AND HUG IS THE NAME OF THE GAME





      Kenny Bayless says nothing to Floyd: the push



      The bias in boxing. So many fouls that night by Floyd not a single whisper from Bayless lol

      Amir khan didn't get the same treatment here though he got deducted from the same stint.


      Khan gets deducted 2 points in this fight:



      Kenny Bayless says nothing to Floyd:




      If Floyd was deducted for all that pushing, hugging and tugging it should have been a lopsided fight since Pac profoundly won this easy. If Floyd was penalized by a point or 2, this would have been 9 to 10 rounds in the bag for Pac lol

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        #83
        Originally posted by Mike D
        Looking back I was pretty delusional going into it -- I really thought that Manny would lay it on the line and take a lot of risks. Obviously a massive, brutal KO like the one he suffered, that **** is inevitable that it will change you, and I understood him being much more cautious and calculated in the bouts leading up to the Mayweather fight because he needed to win all of those to get the Floyd fight -- but once he finally got to that point I thought he'd at least go out on his shield. I truly believed that, lol. Maybe it was just me wanting to believe that.

        What disgusted me as Pacquiao fan was this: He didn't even give himself a shot to win the fight. You're not going to beat Floyd by fighting his f**king fight. Trying to pick your spots and be calculating with the best calculating pick your spots boxer in the world -- lmao what the f**k kinda game plan is that?? So let's say Manny lets his hands go and gets countered to death and loses badly anyway...well at least we could say that the motherf**ker tried. I woulda been much more accepting of that.

        But actually attempting LESS punches than Floyd...lmao I was f**king stunned.
        If you wanted him to waste punches, and get countered to death. That to me is ****** way of playing Floyd. That's what Floyd wanted his opponents to do waste alot of punches, and time his opponents to death. What Pac did was brilliant.

        If for all who think manny wasnt doing anything in the ring against floyd cause he didnt throw a ton of punches like he normally does....there is a golden rule when you box someone like floyd....dont play his game. Floyd wants you to throw wasted punches. Manny studied floyd pretty smart imo cause a smart fighter knows when you got a runner who plays defense dont waste punches or your gonna punch yourself out. That is what floyd banks on saving his best punches when he sees the other is tiring out from all the punches that went nowhere. He had no choice to run, hug, headlock and all from manny....he wasting wasting a lot of his punches.

        As floyd hoped he would. Which is why manny kept up with him in stamina all 12 rounds, had floyd flurried in all 4 corners of the match and rounds. His option was to hold him. Thats a smart but seriously lame tactic. Floyds jabs thrown mostly in all his percetage hit pacs gloves...not face or body. But for some reason judges counted them as hits?


        Just because he wasn't the whirlwind that night. Pac shouldn't deserve the win even if he actually outlanded Floyd for 12 rounds. Who said Pac had to do more than that? Who changed the rules of this game? Last time I checked the one who outlanded his opponent more, and did more hurt in the hurt business while controlling the center of the ring is the true winner.



        Why do they put Pac in such high standards? This is not a game of who should look there best and remains faithful to their fighting style will win. This is the game of who connects more with lethal intent wins this game. And showing control of the center of the ring is what counts as someone who knows what pro fight is about.

        All of that was Pac. As proven by Floyd running around like a headless duck for 12 ***** rounds, who can't get settled, since Pac keeps on coming.


        And Punch stats were found to be fluke. Pac boxing FLoyd wasn't spectacular to some, but in a closer look at the rewind. Pac did enough to win this fight. Pac outlanded the so called counter-puncher, and not only that, he put the most hurt in the hurt business, which is what pro fighting is about. It may not be the whirlwind that we wanted, but with his right shoulder injury he still was the aggressor and was the guy who landed more through out the fight, and not only that PAc was the ring general of the fight, as he commanded the center of the ring.

        You have to realize one wanted to fight, while the other wanted to run and hug. A fight can only happen if the 2 combatants want to mix it up. The only variety Floyd wanted to do that night was to run and hug in an energy diffusing bore-fest. You can't blame Pac for trying especially with an injured right shoulder he still pressed on and was being aggressive the whole night. And everytime Pac was nearing Floyd. Floyd will stay on the ropes, and every time pac was in the kill-zone range, Floyd rather than to exchange with pac chose to clinch everytime to prevent the fight from ever turning into a true super fight. We do know it takes 2 to tango. If one guy just wanted to survive hoping that the judges will save him for his *****ness. We cannot expect a good fight to happen.

        After getting tagged Floyd can go from one side of the fence to another in 0-60 in just 2 seconds Flat! haha!

        Run Floyd Run!




        Story of the night after the running comes the huggin'

        [IMG]http://i279.***********.com/albums/kk145/daheadache/MANNYFLOYD_zpsg1mmif31.gif[/IMG]

        THE RING GENERAL THAT NIGHT


        Here's an in depth view of who was the ring general that night. We all know the one in the center of the ring for most of the rounds is the ring general. Ring general is the 2nd most important scoring criteria used by judges if the judge can't figure who connected more. They go to who was in control of the center. Let's see the heat Map who was more in the center.

        You can see the yellow ball is always chasing the blue ball and the yellow ball is always trying to chase the coward blue ball. Is the blue ball scared of the yellow ball. It looks to me that the blue ball dont have any balls to chase the yellow ball. Somebody was doing a whole lot of running...

        Guess who is the blue ball?



        example of fake ass compubox

        Round 3 fluke, showing how biased compubox for the hometown boy


        Round 3 video (unedited all 3 minutes punch connects of the 3rd round )

        All those whimper jab shots Floyd threw was counted and still in the third round you can't find more than 6 shots floyd landed. Compubox padded him with 15 lol

        Round 3:

        compubox gave Floyd 15 shots.

        When it was actually just 6 lol

        compubox gave Pac 5 shots

        when it's actually 9

        # corruption in Vegas at it's best



        # If someone needs to redeem himself it's Floyd

        # Floyd won a Fluke win
        Last edited by Spoon23; 06-14-2017, 07:45 AM.

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        • CatchAndShoot
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          #84
          Spoon23, dude, you're ether skills are kind of scary.

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          • RaTaTa
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            #85
            Pac-nap fans are worse than animals.

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              #86
              Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
              Spoon23, dude, you're ether skills are kind of scary.
              He is definitely off in the head, must sit around all day watching the forum and as soon as Floyd is mentioned in comes the Spoon Spam, its really a case of him convincing himself, dude is a ******ed child no doubt about it.

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                #87
                Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
                Floyd landed those two right hand counters in the first and Pac fought scared the entire rest of the way.
                I thought i was the only fight fan that notice that! Mayweather came out in the first round and threw and land two right hand which i think put Pacquiao on notice.

                I remember after the fight RJJ made note of it in his analysis, that he thought those first two shots were Mayweather way of putting Pacquiao on notice.

                Pac IMO took that notice and was a bit scared to go
                all in, this was made apparent when he staggered Mayweather a couple of rounds down the line but then backed off after throwing some flurries.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by revelated
                  That's a great freaking video.

                  Floyd is a master.

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                  • A-Wolf
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Mike D
                    Looking back I was pretty delusional going into it -- I really thought that Manny would lay it on the line and take a lot of risks. Obviously a massive, brutal KO like the one he suffered, that **** is inevitable that it will change you, and I understood him being much more cautious and calculated in the bouts leading up to the Mayweather fight because he needed to win all of those to get the Floyd fight -- but once he finally got to that point I thought he'd at least go out on his shield. I truly believed that, lol. Maybe it was just me wanting to believe that.

                    What disgusted me as Pacquiao fan was this: He didn't even give himself a shot to win the fight. You're not going to beat Floyd by fighting his f**king fight. Trying to pick your spots and be calculating with the best calculating pick your spots boxer in the world -- lmao what the f**k kinda game plan is that?? So let's say Manny lets his hands go and gets countered to death and loses badly anyway...well at least we could say that the motherf**ker tried. I woulda been much more accepting of that.

                    But actually attempting LESS punches than Floyd...lmao I was f**king stunned.
                    There had to be more to it than that. Pacquiao didn't shut down for no reason.

                    What do you do the first time you step in a ring and the target moves in and out of range four times faster than any opponent you've ever faced?

                    Manny wasn't being overly selective IMCV. He couldn't control distance on the more athletic Mayweather. That's why in between moments where he sat on his gloves he looked like he was on ice skates trying to find Mayweather with flashlight.

                    I had high hopes for Pacquiao as well but I knew within moments it wasn't going to be the fight we hoped it would be. Floyd was moving his legs and juking around like a background dancer for James Brown that night.

                    The incredible thing is Pacquiao still made a fight of it despite a gross deficit in the running and movement game. He chopped Floyd up and scared the **** out of him with his crazy combinations a few times.. That was good enough for me. Manny showed me he was the better fighter. Mayweather was the better athlete.

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                    • A-Wolf
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by revelated
                      Just look at the first little counter right.. Weak sauce but look at Floyd's legs after he uncoils it.. Human mongoose completely. He was in the Matrix whenever he got into the red zone. Spritely little ****er.. That's what was so unnerving for the opposition. Even when he scores he's AUDI.

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