Comments Thread For: Roach: If Pacquiao Was 100%, Mayweather Would've Lost

[The Big Dunn]

he should have taken those test, the same ones he took to make this fight happen in 2012.... So sad he didnt. And dont post all those damn dates n links, team pac has admitted they were the reason the first fight didnt happen.

Exactly. Manny and bob were looking for an excuse not to fight and used the testing. It would be nice if Manny fans just admitted that.

[chirorickyp]

thats what happens when you fight your biggest fight, and your biggest rival, after you fought some wars, and been put to sleep....you ain't gonna be 100%....you gonna get paid though...

at least dude was trying to press the action and put on a great performance...floyd was just in there to run, clinch, potshot, and pretty much stay away from any heated exchanges...

That's exactly it.
Anyone who doesn't see that or admit to it, or even likes paying big bucks for that garbage performance
(garbage meaning not willing to exchange or close the show) is a fool. He's a successful boxer, the greatest defensive specialist, a guy who made big bucks, but not a legendary FIGHTER.

[djtmal]

Im with you regarding the McGregor farce but Im not understanding the Hearns thing. Ray only rematched him after he was stopped by Barkley and went to the edge with Kinchen. Ray also waited to fight Hagler and should have been the sacrificial lamb in 1985 as Hagler's signature moment not 1987 when he was not the same man anymore. Tommy on the other hand fought them all at their best.

at least ray fought hearns when both were at their peak, the rematch yeah he did sit on hearns for a minute...with hagler, yeah hagler had fought some wars but it wasn't like he was brutally kod, he'd just lost a step..

[WesternChamp]

Fighting with as high a level of skill as has ever been seen in the sport is bad for the sport? Respectfully, do you feel this way about other sports or just in this instance?

where dem skillz at why he no put manny to sleep like a less skill marquez did? maybe itz bekuz marquez have bigger ballz and fought fire with fire?

[filup79]

Same he fought Oscar when he was done but until he faded and used jab he showed you what prime Oscar would do it woukd be close

Oscar had every chance to fight Floyd when Floyd was calling him out. He didn't want any part of FLoyd and OSCAR chose to fight him at that time not FLoyd. So its petty ignorant to say Floyd waited to fight Oscar when he got old when it was Oscar's call not Floyd's. Same thing with Mosely, Mosely didn't want no part of FLoyd until Floyd was the payday.

[The Big Dunn]

where dem skillz at why he no put manny to sleep like a less skill marquez did? maybe itz bekuz marquez have bigger ballz and fought fire with fire?

IMO its because Manny didn't fight to win like he did with JMM. If you remember, Manny was pushing for a KO when he got caught with his hands down. He has the same reach as JMM so his style is more effective. He has a 5 in shorter reach than Floyd so had he fought like that, he would've been dropped early and likely KO'd as well.

The other reason, which you and others have repeated often but I do not agree with, is there was no VADA testing so maybe both guys were dirty.

Quick question-is there VADA testing for the Horn fight?

[WesternChamp]

IMO its because Manny didn't fight to win like he did with JMM. If you remember, Manny was pushing for a KO when he got caught with his hands down. He has the same reach as JMM so his style is more effective. He has a 5 in shorter reach than Floyd so had he fought like that, he would've been dropped early and likely KO'd as well.

The other reason, which you and others have repeated often but I do not agree with, is there was no VADA testing so maybe both guys were dirty.

Quick question-is there VADA testing for the Horn fight?

you mean pac didnt go wild rushing in? so that's the only way high level skillz floyd can ko manny?

manny aint go for the ko because floyd wasnt lighting him up like what marquez did.

[The Big Dunn]

at least ray fought hearns when both were at their peak, the rematch yeah he did sit on hearns for a minute...with hagler, yeah hagler had fought some wars but it wasn't like he was brutally kod, he'd just lost a step..

Hearns didn't turn down the offer to fight SRL like Manny did Floyd. Thats why the fight happened "when it was supposed to".

[WesternChamp]

IMO its because Manny didn't fight to win like he did with JMM. If you remember, Manny was pushing for a KO when he got caught with his hands down. He has the same reach as JMM so his style is more effective. He has a 5 in shorter reach than Floyd so had he fought like that, he would've been dropped early and likely KO'd as well.

The other reason, which you and others have repeated often but I do not agree with, is there was no VADA testing so maybe both guys were dirty.

Quick question-is there VADA testing for the Horn fight?

but you guys said the peds pac took is not to make him faster but its to make him take punches better (that's why he was able to walk thru cotto). so why he still get slept if he was on it? LOL

[WesternChamp]

IMO its because Manny didn't fight to win like he did with JMM. If you remember, Manny was pushing for a KO when he got caught with his hands down. He has the same reach as JMM so his style is more effective. He has a 5 in shorter reach than Floyd so had he fought like that, he would've been dropped early and likely KO'd as well.

The other reason, which you and others have repeated often but I do not agree with, is there was no VADA testing so maybe both guys were dirty.

Quick question-is there VADA testing for the Horn fight?

i thought you guys also said ever since floyd accused manny of taking peds, his ko stopped, meaning he got off of it. so why in 2012 you're saying he's still on it? then why no ko?