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How do you define a "One-dimensional boxer"??
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What can a guy do during a fight, does he have only one way to victory and even if he could do more is he only willing to do it one way.
Being one dimensional is not always a bad thing because fighting to ones strengths is a good way to win. It may lead to a loss against a guy that presents a match-up issue because there is no other option. Most guy s are really one-dimensional if you want to get down to it because not many guys can win fights in vastly different ways.
Generally speaking boxers have it is a bit easier to do a couple different things because someone can lead from the outside with straight fast punches and counter from the outside using their distance control. Plus sitting on the outside makes it harder to get hit so they appear to be decent at defense even if they can be cracked under pressure.
Offensive guys are always going to get hit a bit more, and are generally going to be leading rather than counteringComment
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I would say marco huck and arthur abraham are really one dimensional..no tricks in the boxing book of knowledge...As to the definition, I say they are guys who fight the same way every fight. Win or lose, you know what you're getting every time out.
GGG to me is not one-dimensional. He brawls sometimes and goes for the KO like there's no tomorrow and at other times, he uses his jab and is not as aggressive, especially when in with a big puncher.
Erik Morales to me was not one-dimensional. He would brawl and give the fans what they wanted sometimes, but usually in spurts between boxing which is an awesome style- win rounds and please the crowd. It's hard to argue with that.
Pacquiao was definitely not one-dimensional although I thought he was a bit when he first came onto the scene- a big left hand mainly. However, he developed his right hook of Manila Ice and upped his game over the years, mixing in boxing and stalking.
Mayweather clearly was not one dimensional as he could move or he could stand in close or he could fight off the ropes. He had many different facets.
Marco Antonio Barrera started out somewhat one-dimensional as a straight forward stalking brawler, but he changed after the Junior Jones fights into a smart counterpuncher as well. He really molded himself into a great fighter over the years which was awesome to watch.
But these guys all showed different things in the ring- not just one style or strategy. Thomas Hearns obviously was not one dimensional either and even said that he wanted to show the fans something different every time he stepped into the ring.Comment
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A one-dimensional fighter has a certain skill level and uses the same style in every fight no matter who they're fighting. They can't make adjustments depending on the fighter they're fighting, or what the opponent is doing.
Fighters like Rios and Margacheato are perfect examples because they were only good at one style of fighting and tried to do what they do best against every opponent. They struggled when they fought skilled fighters because they don't have a lot of skills and can't make adjustments.Comment
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James Toney can't fight going backwards when you up the work rate? Go watch the Jirov fight.People tend to consider aggressive fighters as one dimensional a lot of the time. Probably because they don't step back. But it's not the case.
"Boxers" are the other end of the spectrum. They are mostly considered multidimensonal just because they throw counterpunches.
Take James Toney as a prime example, people consider him to be a multi dimensonal fighter because he throws flashy nice looking counterpunches. But how? Show him any kind of movement or boxing skill and he's completely lost. He can't fight well going forward at all. But he also can't fight well on the back foot either, if he's outworked and forced into a pace he doesn't like he struggles. The only time he ever fights well is when someone is right infront of him and fighting at his pace.
To me that's a one dimensional fighter.
James Toney is the only fighter in compubox history to have 4 fights tracked where he CONNECTED more than 400 punches in a championship fight.
Toney vs Barkley - 401 landed.
Toney vs Williams - 420 landed.
Toney vs Thorton - 431 landed.
Toney vs Wolfe - 468 landed.
Toney also landed 434 punches against Mike McCallum.
You DKSAB if you think Toney has ever wilted under pressure or going backwards. That is Toneys playground.
To save you the time, a fat out of shape Toney threw 590 powershots in keeping up with being "outworked" by Jirov.Comment
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Jirov is the one fight I would say where he pulled it out and performed. And fair play because he did win that fight without any controversy. But Jirov isn't very good so there's that.James Toney can't fight going backwards when you up the work rate? Go watch the Jirov fight.
James Toney is the only fighter in compubox history to have 4 fights tracked where he CONNECTED more than 400 punches in a championship fight.
Toney vs Barkley - 401 landed.
Toney vs Williams - 420 landed.
Toney vs Thorton - 431 landed.
Toney vs Wolfe - 468 landed.
Toney also landed 434 punches against Mike McCallum.
You DKSAB if you think Toney has ever wilted under pressure or going backwards. That is Toneys playground.
To save you the time, a fat out of shape Toney threw 590 powershots in keeping up with being "outworked" by Jirov.
Not even sure what the point of the rest of your post is. He lands punches? Ok? All of those fighters outside of McCallum weren't top fighters at that time and almost all of them stood infront of him in the pocket at his pace the one place where Toney does well. Your examples do nothing but support what I am saying. In that scenario he can land those punches. But not in any others because he doesn't have the ability to make adjustments.
He can't fight going backwards. He actually can't do it. When he attempted to box and move against Merqui Sosa he looked terrible.
I have seen him outworked. Tiberi, Sosa, Sanderline, Thadzi, Griffin, they put a pace on him and he was outworked and he struggled or lost to all of the above.Comment
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Haven't watched much of Huck but that's spot on about Abraham. Nothing special in any way, but he's carved out a decent career really. Not knocking him. I'm sure he's racked up plenty of Euros.Comment
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