How do you define a "One-dimensional boxer"??

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  • VatoMulatto
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    How do you define a "One-dimensional boxer"??

    I remember Hopkins said a couple of years ago that Roy Jones jr was one-dimensional. Out of all the things you could say about Roy Jones, one-dimensional is certainly not one that comes to mind IMO. Lennox Lewis said Mike Tyson was a one-dimensional fighter, do you agreee with that?

    To me Felix "Tito" Trinidad was a great one-dimensional fighter.

    It seems like a lot of people (fans and fighters) have different opinions when it comes to how to define a one dimensional fighter.

    How do you define it and name some fighters that are one-dimensional in your opinion.
    Last edited by VatoMulatto; 06-08-2017, 04:13 AM.
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    I'm a huge Trinidad fan and it's hard for me to agree with you on that. MY inner fan wants to say he wasn't. However, I think he was, but as you say he was a great one-dimensional fighter. There have been many. Joe Frazier I believe was one-dimensional but what does it matter? That guy was one of the best if not the best heavyweight swarmer of all time. What a beast.

    Yori Boy Campas had two goals for every fight- hit them hard and eat every punch thrown. Definitely one dimensional, but hit like a mule.

    I think Hagler was borderline. I mean, maybe not completely one-dimensional, but pretty close. He was best coming forward and stalking his opponents. He could box some as well, but I never thought he was very good at it. He would try though and that's why I'd say he's not. One dimensional guys don't seem to even try to branch out much.

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    • Tony Trick-Pony
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      As to the definition, I say they are guys who fight the same way every fight. Win or lose, you know what you're getting every time out.

      GGG to me is not one-dimensional. He brawls sometimes and goes for the KO like there's no tomorrow and at other times, he uses his jab and is not as aggressive, especially when in with a big puncher.

      Erik Morales to me was not one-dimensional. He would brawl and give the fans what they wanted sometimes, but usually in spurts between boxing which is an awesome style- win rounds and please the crowd. It's hard to argue with that.

      Pacquiao was definitely not one-dimensional although I thought he was a bit when he first came onto the scene- a big left hand mainly. However, he developed his right hook of Manila Ice and upped his game over the years, mixing in boxing and stalking.

      Mayweather clearly was not one dimensional as he could move or he could stand in close or he could fight off the ropes. He had many different facets.

      Marco Antonio Barrera started out somewhat one-dimensional as a straight forward stalking brawler, but he changed after the Junior Jones fights into a smart counterpuncher as well. He really molded himself into a great fighter over the years which was awesome to watch.

      But these guys all showed different things in the ring- not just one style or strategy. Thomas Hearns obviously was not one dimensional either and even said that he wanted to show the fans something different every time he stepped into the ring.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        People tend to consider aggressive fighters as one dimensional a lot of the time. Probably because they don't step back. But it's not the case.

        "Boxers" are the other end of the spectrum. They are mostly considered multidimensonal just because they throw counterpunches.

        Take James Toney as a prime example, people consider him to be a multi dimensonal fighter because he throws flashy nice looking counterpunches. But how? Show him any kind of movement or boxing skill and he's completely lost. He can't fight well going forward at all. But he also can't fight well on the back foot either, if he's outworked and forced into a pace he doesn't like he struggles. The only time he ever fights well is when someone is right infront of him and fighting at his pace.

        To me that's a one dimensional fighter.
        Last edited by IronDanHamza; 06-08-2017, 04:46 AM.

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        • Teetotaler
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          • dibzvincent143
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            When you approach every situation and every style the same way. There's a lot of great one dimensional fighters because their style works for them and that's what they do best. Until of course, they meet their Kryptonites.

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            • Lester Tutor
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              #7
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              People tend to consider aggressive fighters as one dimensional a lot of the time. Probably because they don't step back. But it's not the case.

              "Boxers" are the other end of the spectrum. They are mostly considered multidimensonal just because they throw counterpunches.

              Take James Toney as a prime example, people consider him to be a multi dimensonal fighter because he throws flashy nice looking counterpunches. But how? Show him any kind of movement or boxing skill and he's completely lost. He can't fight well going forward at all. But he also can't fight well on the back foot either, if he's outworked and forced into a pace he doesn't like he struggles. The only time he ever fights well is when someone is right infront of him and fighting at his pace.

              To me that's a one dimensional fighter.
              hellls no!! Toney is a master class POCKET FIGHTER! Can dip out with shoulders, swerve inside fighting and hit, multiple one-hand body hitter, can pull counter strike all within the pocket. Takes a lot of guts and glory to be an inside fighter as such. Also, multiple weight classes...

              you izzz joking!!

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              • bojangles1987
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                The definition of a one-dimensional fighter shouldn't have multiple interpretations. It's literally in the phrase. One dimension. It's Frazier swarming and pounding with his left hook. It's Matthysse looking for his big bombs. It's Rigondeaux controlling distance and shooting the left. They have one way of fighting and won't change up no matter who they fight.

                Calling Roy Jones one-dimensional is crazy.

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
                  hellls no!! Toney is a master class POCKET FIGHTER! Can dip out with shoulders, swerve inside fighting and hit, multiple one-hand body hitter, can pull counter strike all within the pocket. Takes a lot of guts and glory to be an inside fighter as such. Also, multiple weight classes...

                  you izzz joking!!
                  Yes, and that's his one dimension. Everything you just said is part of the one way he fights, which makes him one-dimensional.

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                  • Lester Tutor
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                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    Yes, and that's his one dimension. Everything you just said is part of the one way he fights, which makes him one-dimensional.
                    please.. lol

                    take away everything I said and you've got a Brandon Rios pocket fighter..

                    what's even funnier and more ironic is no benefit of the doubt from Toney's prize fighting entertainment. ain't nothing one dimensional about Toney

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