Will Sergey "The Klutcher" Holdalev do more than a head lock to stop inside fighting

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  • sunny31
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    #11
    Originally posted by bigdramashow
    one illegal move to counteract another, people seem to forget that initiating clinches over and over again is illegal. if refs arent going to penalise ward for initiating clinches then kovalev should take matters into his own hands.
    How about when Kovalev was initiating the clinches? Which was basically whenever Ward invaded his space, because he can't fight inside.

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    • therealpugilist
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      #12
      Originally posted by bigdramashow
      i love how kovalev is now somehow the villain because he tried to counteract wards clinches and didnt just let ward clinch freely like other fighters did, and naively wait for the ref to take points away from ward (which will never happen)
      Are you lost?

      We are discussing strategy, techniques, etc


      The excuses department is to your left bro

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      • TRTboy
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        #13
        LOL I love how the guys who have never boxed have somehow flipped this as Kovalev the one initiating the clinch.

        If your opponent charges you aggressively with his head low the way Ward does it's very hard to get punches off, if you are a high IQ fighter you stop his momentum and that's by standing your ground which will result in a clinch, that way you are not on your heels while the guy coming in is under you giving him better leverage to punch.

        If you're a ****** fighter you let Ward smother you and bully you while Ward gets his shots in.

        Ward bulrushes his way into a clinch that's why he has been involved in headbutts which usually will be in his favor because he has the momentum.

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          #14
          I hope he chokes Ward to death.

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          • Mukuro
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            #15
            Originally posted by bigdramashow
            one illegal move to counteract another, people seem to forget that initiating clinches over and over again is illegal. if refs arent going to penalise ward for initiating clinches then kovalev should take matters into his own hands.
            They are either not willing to see, or simply not capable. I have tried to explain the concept, but they want to make hollow points for their team, not talk about reality.

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            • Mukuro
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              #16
              Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
              He just needs to lean and arch his back a little, get a guillotine choke going. Dre will keep his head out of there then, trust me
              Originally posted by eco1
              I hope he chokes Ward to death.
              Probably the right response to a troll topic

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              • therealpugilist
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                #17
                Originally posted by TRTboy
                LOL I love how the guys who have never boxed have somehow flipped this as Kovalev the one initiating the clinch.

                If your opponent charges you aggressively with his head low the way Ward does it's very hard to get punches off, if you are a high IQ fighter you stop his momentum and that's by standing your ground which will result in a clinch, that way you are not on your heels while the guy coming in is under you giving him better leverage to punch.

                If you're a ****** fighter you let Ward smother you and bully you while Ward gets his shots in.

                Ward bulrushes his way into a clinch that's why he has been involved in headbutts which usually will be in his favor because he has the momentum.
                Where were the head butts in their fight lol

                They both initiated clinches... You must be blind

                Difference is, he had no answer when ward avoided getting tied up for long spurts of time

                Its OK to be honest bro

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Mukuro
                  They are either not willing to see, or simply not capable. I have tried to explain the concept, but they want to make hollow points for their team, not talk about reality.
                  Moron. Cheating because your opponent might, is still cheating.

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                  • Mukuro
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    Moron. Cheating because your opponent might, is still cheating.
                    So you consider holding and clinching cheating then? Then you consider Ward a cheater in his previous fights, or only this strong language for Kovalev?

                    Ward uses rough tactics to gain an advantage over fighters who don't know how to respond to it. Kovalev neutralized it by clinching and avoiding Ward's head. It isn't complicated unless you try to spin it.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mukuro
                      So you consider holding and clinching cheating then? Then you consider Ward a cheater in his previous fights, or only this strong language for Kovalev?

                      Ward uses rough tactics to gain an advantage over fighters who don't know how to respond to it. Kovalev neutralized it by clinching and avoiding Ward's head. It isn't complicated unless you try to spin it.
                      You're complicating it. Kovalev cheated and was doing it before Ward started holding.

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