Comments Thread For: Jackson: Ward Should Stop Holding; Should Stand & Fight Kovalev

[Ake-Dawg]

Kovaliov looked down on Ward... he lost much time and energy in trying to out-wrestle and out-box him...

... I don't need JDJ to explain me what I saw by myself...

So you didn't see Kovalev initiate clinches? And what adjustment can he make? Throw hooks to the body at the risk of getting hit with an overhand shot?

[MantisToboggan]

KOV was the one initiating the clinch. he didn't want Ward to work on the inside.

If you mean headbut and throw elbows then yea who would want that. Kovalev is coming like a siberian train to take Ward's head off.

On 17th Belts will be returned.

[uppercut510]

Kov has the upper hand at range, ward needs to take it to the inside

[j0zef]

KOV was the one initiating the clinch. he didn't want Ward to work on the inside.

Sure. Despite there being 50 minutes of high quality video footage showing Ward clinching, and 1000 more minutes of footage showing Ward clinching in other fights, it was obviously Kovalev's master strategy of initiating the clinches, which lead to inside fighting, because he 'didnt want Ward to work on the inside'.

What a game plan! A fighter who has fought on the outside for entirely of his 8 year pro career will suddenly start clinching against a guy who's been a known clincher for those same 8 years+:

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399630

http://rapmusic.com/threads/andre-ward-the-most-boring-worst-boxer-ever.1187538/

Check the date on those threads.

Your logic is also spectacular. It was Kovalev initiating the clinches to avoid inside fighting, which led to Ward winning because of "beautiful inside work".


It amazes me how some you fanboys try to defy reality in some of the dumb **** statements you try to make. What's next? You gonna claim that we live on Mars, breathe heavy condensates and sky is brown?

[MDPopescu]

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Kovaliov looked down on Ward... he lost much time and energy in trying to out-wrestle and out-box him...

So you didn't see Kovalev initiate clinches? ...

... Where did I say I didn't see?

... but, wait!... go and rewatch all the fights of these two guys... then come back and explain me their respective "clinching history"...

[Squ□redCircle34]

So every ref and judge in Wards 20 year career misunderstands the boxing rules and has allowed him to use illegal tactics. The Olympic refs and judges, the amateur refs and judges, and all of the pro refs and judges. And all of the current top fighters that feel Ward is a top p4p fighter seem to overlook his fouling tactics when forming their opinion? Come on son!

I may have exaggerated a bit but it's true some refs did allow Ward to get away with almost everything...that is a FACT!

All you have to do is get rid of the bias binoculars and open your eyes and watch his "skills"!

I only respect Ward in a small sense that he does whatever it takes to win but he cant trounce around as if he's holier than thou and have the audacity to call himself "Son of God"!

How can you defend someone who fouls as much as he does!

Just watch the Mikkel Kessler fight if you don't believe, just look!

[the secret]

Kovalev put Ward in a headlock multiple times damn near every round. Kovalev also clinched multiple times to stop Wards inside fighting. Jackson is full of it.

[Dean_Razorback]

dummies will say that jackson wants wart to stand in front of kovalev and let the russian hit him. but in reality wrestling is not boxing, is still wrestling

[Ake-Dawg]

... Where did I say I didn't see?

... but, wait!... go and rewatch all the fights of these two guys... then come back and explain me their respective "clinching history"...

What's the value in that? There is no excuse for preventative clinching or fouling. You nullify clinches and fouling with effective pinching and footwork.

[Ake-Dawg]

I may have exaggerated a bit but it's true some refs did allow Ward to get away with almost everything...that is a FACT!

All you have to do is get rid of the bias binoculars and open your eyes and watch his "skills"!

I only respect Ward in a small sense that he does whatever it takes to win but he cant trounce around as if he's holier than thou and have the audacity to call himself "Son of God"!

How can you defend someone who fouls as much as he does!

Just watch the Mikkel Kessler fight if you don't believe, just look!

Sadly, the Kessler fight is the go to for those who want to label Ward a clincher and fouler. How about something more recent? Like within the last 5 or 6 fights.