If Kovalev gets robbed again, I won't follow boxing anymore

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  • Cheek busting
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    #51
    Originally posted by larryxxx.
    I bet all the big wigs in boxing read this and said

    Quiet, boy. Know your place.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Derranged
      Ward was lowering his head and charging in. Anyway, "illegal tactics" were not an issue. Twas a close fight and people need to quit crying about the decision.
      How is what Ward did any different than what Maidana and Hatton did to Floyd? Or Lucas Matthysse's tactics in some of his fights? Or Abel Mares in some of his fights? Why is it only dirty when Ward does it?

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        #53
        Originally posted by ESAU
        You mean kovalev trying to defend against Ward Billy goating on the inside and him grabbing kovalev every time in close?

        It is illegal in boxing to hold, period. So if ward is warned and deducted for that then I'll have no problem with kovalev being treated the same if he engages in illegal tactics.

        But what do you think about three American judges? Would you have an issue if the fight was in Russia with a Russia ref and threw Russian judges?

        Show me one time where an American has fight overseas and there was three judges and a ref all from that country?

        Broom vs Spence had American and other non english judges in England.

        Wilder vs povetkinwas going to have American judges in Russia.

        Yet why is this acceptable? Is America above it?
        They are fighting in Nevada.

        3 American judges are completely normal.

        And, by your reckoning, Kova shoulda been DQed the first fight.

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          #54
          Originally posted by boliodogs
          I voted no but not because I want the officials to favor my favorite fighters. The officials should score the fights correctly and not favor either boxer. Boxing has always had bad decisions and some flat out robberies. That will never change. Of course it would be better if all fights were scored correctly but that is only possible in a fantasy world that doesn't exist. I score my own fights and my score card is the only one that matters to me. If the officials scored the fight for the other guy rather than the fighter I scored the winner I refuse to recognize their decision. I will always consider Kovalev the winner of the Kovalev vs Ward fight and Pacquiao the winner of the first Pacquiao vs Bradley fight. That's how I deal with bad decisions and continue to love boxing.

          Don't you think a way to prevent that would be to bring in foreign judges? And not three American judges (again).

          Would it be acceptable if thisbfight was in Russia to have three Russian judges and a Russian ref?? Lol the posters here would be going crazy. But it wouldn't happen cause Ward would never agree to it anyway.

          There hasn't been a single time when an American fighter fought abroad that he was subjected to all judges being from that country.

          Why shouldn't kovalev be granted the same?

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            #55
            Originally posted by Derranged
            Ward was lowering his head and charging in. Anyway, "illegal tactics" were not an issue. Twas a close fight and people need to quit crying about the decision.
            the only time ward could land a punch was when he had kovalevs arm locked or after locking him and pushing off. how was that not an issue? he was completely outboxed otherwise. even if you count those illegal shots he still loses but it was the only way he made the fight even somewhat competitive.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Freedom .
              And he's won nearly all of them by KO/TKO.

              Judges couldn't rob him.

              One time he won by a clean KO, but the ref called it a draw.
              did they have him winning on their scorecard at the time of the stoppage?

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                #57
                Originally posted by koolkc107
                How is what Ward did any different than what Maidana and Hatton did to Floyd? Or Lucas Matthysse's tactics in some of his fights? Or Abel Mares in some of his fights? Why is it only dirty when Ward does it?
                Who said I didn't think they were dirty? Hatton's style revolved around holding and Maidana/Mayweather 1 was a very dirty fight from both sides. Didn't notice Matthysse though.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by koolkc107
                  They are fighting in Nevada.

                  3 American judges are completely normal.

                  And, by your reckoning, Kova shoulda been DQed the first fight.
                  Cool, so it should be completely normal for the time an American fights in Russia to have three Russian judges, right?

                  Let the Nevada commission do their job, doe, right?!?!

                  Like back five years ago when Floyd complained about wanting another authority to oversee drug testing - he was out of line to request that because in Nevada it's co peltely normal for them to use their normal protocol, right?

                  LET THE COMMISSION DO THEIR JOB, DOE!!

                  Hahah

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by koolkc107
                    How is what Ward did any different than what Maidana and Hatton did to Floyd? Or Lucas Matthysse's tactics in some of his fights? Or Abel Mares in some of his fights? Why is it only dirty when Ward does it?
                    lumping all those guys together...what nuance. the false equivalency argument. everythings equal therefore wards cheating is ok! sorry not buying that. ward started it by continually leaping in and locking kov's arms. if the ref had reffed a good fight he would have stopped ward from cheating and thus prevented kov from responding with headlocks but he did not. also how many low blows did ward get away with in that fight? it was insane. sorry thats body work when you are a fanboy

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by bigdramashow
                      hes gonna get robbed mate. thats why im not that interested in the fight. 3 american judges. they arent going to let a russian come to back yard and get the decision. ward is their golden guy too.
                      You know it Kovalev needs a knock out and the way Ward holds and never is never called on it it's very difficult. Like I wrote before Black Americans are protected by corrupt US judges and refs

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