Is Pacquiao still a top WW?

[soul_survivor]

Close to shot? I just don't see it. He took a top 6-7 WW in Vargas and totally dominated every round. Bradley almost lost to the guy. Almost shot is not at all accurate.

Pac almost shot is still levels above someone like Vargas but if you have followed the Pacmans career you could see he was visibly slower with hand and foot, his feints were A LOT slower and he wasn't throwing punches the way he did in 2011 for example.

[Boxing Goat]

Pac almost shot is still levels above someone like Vargas but if you have followed the Pacmans career you could see he was visibly slower with hand and foot, his feints were A LOT slower and he wasn't throwing punches the way he did in 2011 for example.

You have no idea who you are talking to as I've seen every Pacquiao fight live since like 2004 and went back and watched every meaningful fight before that. Trust me, you don't know more about Pacquiao or his style than I do. His style changed after getting knocked out by Marquez but he's nowhere near close to being shot. As far as his reflexes go, every fighter loses snap and it's no different for Manny but his feet and hand speed are still elite, even if they are not what they used to be.

[Larry the boss]

You are a big Floyd fan arent you? Really big. You wont have a bad word said about him will you?
Instead of saying i talk utter rubbish can you educate me with your wisdom what exactly is it i said that is not right?

Did he fight all the WW to prove hes the best? Did he fight Brook? Did he fight Thurman? Did he rematch Pac even with controversial shoulder gate.

dude he was a 2 time lineal ww champion and won all of his titles in the rings..He literally held every title there was at 147

WBC-2 TIMES
WBO
IBF
WBA
IBO
IBA
RING-2 TIMES

So stop it Floyd did everything at 147 and was clearly the best

[Larry the boss]

Im sure Floyd has got a better resume than Brook and Thurman and historically will go down greater.
But youve still got to fight the toughest oppoents to be the best. Beating Ortiz,, Guerrero, Maidana and Berto dont make you the best when the toughest oppoents are considered thurman and Brook at WW.
That makes Floyd one the very best at WW same as Pac.

But Pac aint the best WW withoiut beating those guys so why is Floyd?

Brook was laughed at as a mandatory fighting nobody and Thurman was still unproven..They are not even from Floyds generation

[hugh grant]

Brook was laughed at as a mandatory fighting nobody and Thurman was still unproven..They are not even from Floyds generation

But Thurmond and brook are tougher fights than maidana and Bertolucci. Floyd needs to fight the guys who want his place as the best ww.
Brook was seen as a interesting fight for ggg even. So I don't see why he wouldn't be for floyd?
Floyd was one of the best ww not prepared to fight the other guys vying for top ww status.
If you can't understand me I'm not explaining it properly obviously and there's nothing wrong with your comprehension skills.
Floyd was arguably the best ww with a question mark next to it! That question mark could have been removed if he'd have beaten brook and Thurmon. Everyone wanted flood.
Being a top 3 ww isn't too bad. Does floyd have to be the absolute best, no arguments close the casket every time?

[pasawayako]

yoy are completely unfit to score a boxing match.

Just like most of the vegas judges.

[Larry the boss]

But Thurmond and brook are tougher fights than maidana and Bertolucci. Floyd needs to fight the guys who want his place as the best ww.
Brook was seen as a interesting fight for ggg even. So I don't see why he wouldn't be for floyd?
Floyd was one of the best ww not prepared to fight the other guys vying for top ww status.
If you can't understand me I'm not explaining it properly obviously and there's nothing wrong with your comprehension skills.
Floyd was arguably the best ww with a question mark next to it! That question mark could have been removed if he'd have beaten brook and Thurmon. Everyone wanted flood.
Being a top 3 ww isn't too bad. Does floyd have to be the absolute best, no arguments close the casket every time?

no it wasnt..it was a huge cherry pick..stop it

[Zaryu]

Of course, he may not be the fighter he used to be, but put him against the top welterweights and he will still beat most and be competitive against those that can beat this version of him.

[hugh grant]

no it wasnt..it was a huge cherry pick..stop it

But brook was brave to fight GGG. Why wasn't Floyd brave enough to fight brook let alone GGG.?
People aren't shocked brook would fight GGG. It was more a case of good on ya son go show them you want to fight the best! If Floyd agreed to fight GGG I think some with dodgy hearts might get shoicked real bad. In fact Floyd better not agree to fight GGG as it might be too shocking for some.

Floyd was too scared to fight the toip 4 ww's. Let alone a middleweight

[The Tribe]

Absolutely not. He needs Alex Ariza back in his corner.