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  • #71
    Pac is just a money grab for the rest of career for Arum.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by djtmal View Post
      Lol...like floyd did...

      what real good full fledged ww did floyd fight...ortiz? guerrero? oh i forget they were beltholders so they were good...

      cotto, shane, zab, hatton, even oscar...all those guys came up from the lighter weights...

      the full fledged ww that called floyd out..thurman...oops time to retire...lol...and spence...floyd figured it was better to join 'em
      Oscar? Floyd fought Oscar @ 154, Cotto @ 154, Canelo @ 152! Oscar was the A-side, and he chose the weight! Shane Mosley (the one that stopped Margarito) was a full fledged WW. Zab won the WBC WW title from Cory Spinks in February of 2005, he didn't fight Floyd until April 2006.

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      • #73
        It's called being old and past your prime.

        In addition, he is semi-retired and his handlers, including Freddie Roach and Bob Arum are protecting him by setting him up with easy and winnable fights; Especially with the low risk and high reward variety.

        This way he can earn some extra cash on the side, while he is currently active serving his country as a full time Senator.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Mike D View Post
          I get that boxrec ain't gospel and it's FAR from f**king perfect, but it's really the only unbiased rating system that exists for this sport. In fact isn't that **** done by some sort of formula? Anyways if you got something better in which to use, then by all means, Eddie.
          www.tbrb.org is a lot better than many rankings I have seen. They have a lot of heads working on it. No ranking is perfect, but boxrec is laughable.

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          • #75
            Manny is on the last legs of a HOF career, he fought the best in his prime and doesn't own anybody anything. Manny should be left to fight whoever he chooses and the young bucks should fight for the crown amongst themselves.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
              Oscar? Floyd fought Oscar @ 154, Cotto @ 154, Canelo @ 152! Oscar was the A-side, and he chose the weight! Shane Mosley (the one that stopped Margarito) was a full fledged WW. Zab won the WBC WW title from Cory Spinks in February of 2005, he didn't fight Floyd until April 2006.
              he's talking about how oscar, zab, mosley, cotto, started off their careers in the lower weights before moving up to ww and beyond. since the other poster said pac is only fighting smaller guys that moved up to ww so that doesnt count.

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              • #77
                The fact is Manny is broke and burned out. He doesn't have the same passion and love for the sport anymore like he used to. In the past it was all about making the people happy by giving them the best performances and fights they wanted to see. However, sadly and unfortunately he doesn't seem to care anymore. He has become nothing more than a mercenary fighter, who've lost all his will to compete at the championship level and is only prolonging his career because he needs the money. His victories over the feather-fisted Timothy Bradley and Jessie Vargas don't count as solid wins.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by marikudo View Post
                  FYI Jeff Horn is the #2 WBO contender which Pacquiao is the champion. So what's wrong with that? Floydiots talk without sense sometimes.
                  Who cares if his number 2 wtf. Nobody even knows him. It doesn't make any sense to fight that level of competition at this point of your career. Ur just throwing more of whats left in ur tank. What should pacs motivation for this fight?
                  He doesnt even know the guy. Would he get credit if he wins? Where does this win take him?
                  Could it attract people to demand a fight with floyd? Which is basically what pac is lookin for.

                  Why u defending that bs is beyond me and i'm pac fan.

                  You been known ur whole career for takin challenges and bein a warrior then suddenly you chose jeff horn among the thurman, spence, brook, crawford, matthysse. I'd even take broner and khan to be better fights than this.

                  If u no longer want to compete at top level retire. Berto fight floyd got huge criticism but its way better than this bs

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                  • #79
                    Mismanaged

                    Pacquiao is being overlooked simply because Arum fails time and time again to put him in decent relevant match ups. What on earth is this Horn farce that is currently taking place? Arum has mismanaged Manny into virtual irrelevance which is quite an achievement.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                      The fact is Manny is broke and burned out. He doesn't have the same passion and love for the sport anymore like he used to. In the past it was all about making the people happy by giving them the best performances and fights they wanted to see. However, sadly and unfortunately he doesn't seem to care anymore. He has become nothing more than a mercenary fighter, who've lost all his will to compete at the championship level and is only prolonging his career because he needs the money. His victories over the feather-fisted Timothy Bradley and Jessie Vargas don't count as solid wins.
                      Bradley Is certainly a solid win and has been very tough competition for everyone he has been In the ring with. He Isn't the biggest puncher thats for sure but that feather fisted fighter had Marquez wobbled and managed to lift Pacquiao off of his feet.

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