Comments Thread For: Spence: Thurman Not as Strong as Brook, He's Small - I'll Beat Him

[PunchyPotorff]

Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
Obviously, anything can happen in a Thurman/Spence fight, but if you want to say Spence has a better I.Q. than Thurman IMO you'd be all wet. Thurman is just a smarter person in general. Spence may win, but it would be equal to him fighting an uninjured Brook. IOW not an easy task for a guy who has some serious leaks in his defense. Spence talks like it would be easy work, but really he's only fooling himself. He talked like his performance was down vs Brook, but what he may never admit is... Brook made him look sub par for several rounds there. And Thurman will do the same type thing. Make no mistake, if we're talking willpower, Thurman can match or beat Spence all day. There will be some serious back and forth and other drama, no matter who wins this one. But everyone needs to at least be fair and let Thurman heal properly, and then take a tuneup fight first. Just let Spence fight some other guy(s), and cool his **** while waiting.

Thurman would beat Spence, but first he needs six months off, then a tune-up, then mandatories against Peterson and Porter.

If Thurman had any confidence that he could beat Spence, that would be his next fight. Brook made Spence look sub-par? Ok, and everyone who ever fought Mayweather "made" Floyd look subpar for the first four rounds too. What looks like an even, sub-par, hard-to-score round, is an early round where Spence is pounding the body. Thus, the opponent is gassed by the midway point. I love it, Spence didn't dominate every single round, so Thurman would beat him. Ok. Sure. Thurman's style is all wrong for Spence. It is. He wants to jump in and then back out. But when he does that to Spence he will be eating hard shots to the body every time. Until he starts protecting his body, then jarring shots to the head start.

The first few rounds of a fight are "feeling out." Watch Mayweather's fights, watch Hopkins fights, watch Ward-Kov. That Spence doesn't jump in recklessly, but actually adjusts based on what his opponent is doing, is not a flaw. That is what the greats do.

This in itself is an extremely ignorant comment:

"If Thurman had any confidence that he could beat Spence, that would be his next fight."

MY comments were the correct way for ANY fighter to go when there's a serious challenge like Spence knocking at the door... "But everyone needs to at least be fair and let Thurman heal properly, and then take a tuneup fight first"

And your whole explanation has way too much 'Spence fan boy' in it. I'd prefer Thurman win, but I'd accept a good win by Spence as being solid. You're all Spence, all the time. That's why your analogy is flawed. Thurman has made adjustments in his fights too. Thurman has power. Thurman is fast. Thurman pounds the body. Spence doesn't have an exclusive franchise to knowing how to fight... no matter how much you gush about his attributes being supposedly perfect. But go ahead and think it'll happen just like you say. It's you who will be disappointed, not me.

[Mike D]

Errol's defense is not as well as his offense & determination.

True, he does have some holes defensively -- Brook got him on several occasions with some really nice shots. Although that's also to be expected with a guy of Brook's caliber.

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

Thurman is not fast at all. He couldn't hurt Garcia mainly because Garcia could see most of his punches coming.

I don't understand how anyone could think Thurman hits harder than Spence or Brook when he couldn't even hurt Garcia or Porter. I can guarantee you If Spence fought Garcia he would hurt Garcia in the fight..

But Thurman no faster than Spence imo. Spence has longer arms than make him appear slower than what he is while Thurman takes away from his own speed throwing wide punches.

Thurman is definitely fast. When he's moving backwards, his hands are a blur. He can land about 2 or 3 shots before his opponent can react.

Couldn't hurt Garcia or Porter? He nearly DROPPED Porter twice in their fight and he had Garcia hurt in the first round and holding to stand up (Danny has a good chin, by the way). Even Bundu, who fought both of them, said that Thurman hits harder than Spence.

It really feels like a lot of people are underestimating Thurman's power just because he hasn't stopped anybody in a while. His power has consistently been shown with every fight he's had.

If [Spence] could embarrass Thurman, he'd be the best fighter in the division. Be an interesting matchup in styles. Definitely a more skill induced fight than with Porter. Didn't like watching him try to dry hump Thurman all over the ring. Pretty boring fight--and Porter is normally exciting. Just love that Spence self promotes. I hope they all do eventually.

That fight definitely wasn't boring.

[MC Hammer]

You're not a great am when you fail on the international level.

So now in the US just being an olympian is greatness?

I remember you guys that GGG who you all like to dowplay was a great ams since he won at least medals.

Sparring is a different story.

I repeat, Charlos and Andrade whoops his ass in a pro fight.

He's the best WW, agreed.

Well according to this article he was ranked #5 in the world before turning pro so how is that failing on the international level?

https://uinterview.com/videos/errol-spence-jr-video-interview-u-s-olympic-boxer/

No one gives a damn about lil g's amateur record. No one comments on it. He hasn't beaten anyone of note as a pro non-controversially. That's his problem.

And again mentioning that he's the best in a division with Porter, Pacquoia, Thurman, Brook, Garcia Bradley let's you know what kind of talent he is. All you have said is that it will take a huge size advantage to beat him

[blackonyx66]

Brooks excuses ,He should just retire.

Fact is that GGG only needed 2 rounds to crack Brook's skull. Spence fought a cautious/broken/defeated Brook. A post GGG Brook.

Didn't matter who Brook fought always will have an excuse I'm seeing three guys with
Spence then 4 guys with GGG.Juan Marquesz if you listen to him
He never lost a fight and I would bet my house he was on
Roils the nite he ko Pacquiao.

[Travycat]

It's subjective.

That fight definitely wasn't boring.

[Sledgeweather17]

honestly that sounds ******. But you see the GGG haters saying golovkin should move up and face the winner of kovalev vs ward..so you don't know what's ****** and what's not in this website

It's the Golovtards who started that when they accused welterweight Floyd of ducking middleweight Golovkin.

[soul_survivor]

Spence is the only Haymon guy I can think of who is consistently speaking about fighting other top fighters and his target Thurman is getting it real bad. Thurman has done everything to avoid spekaing about Spence but the latter is correct. Thurman is 5'7'', too skinny and does not hit hard enough. Spence will overwhelm him.

[Sledgeweather17]

Spence is far from being the new Mayweather, he's somehow limited in the skills department.


That's why he never was a great amateur.

But dude is big, strong and akward, he beat the best WW last week end IMO, even if Brook was coming off a loss.

Garcia is too small and Thurman and Porter aren't that great, he will clean up that division, but get beat if he moves up to 154 soon.

A Charlo bro would whoop his ass, let alone Andrade.

Dude has a sparring bro for a sparring partner/stablemate. I don't think he'll be worried about 154lbers when he moves up.

The other Charlo bro is at 160 now so that fight aint happening soon.

Honestly though what I think will happen is that Jermell will clean out 154lbs while Spence and Jermall clean out 160lbs. Then they will move up at the same time, Spence to 154, Jermell to 160, and Jermall to 168.

Reasons: Jermell don't wana get in his brother's way, and Spence won't wana be in the same division as his stablemate coz they can't fight each other. So they'll time their moves so that they move up at or around the same time.

[Thraxox]

Spence is the only Haymon guy I can think of who is consistently speaking about fighting other top fighters and his target Thurman is getting it real bad. Thurman has done everything to avoid spekaing about Spence but the latter is correct. Thurman is 5'7'', too skinny and does not hit hard enough. Spence will overwhelm him.

Thurman never really has that one punch power. He just overwhelms with punches.