Comments Thread For: Spence: Thurman Not as Strong as Brook, He's Small - I'll Beat Him

[texasboi15]

Before the Brook fight it was:

wait till spence gets a taste of that chocolate brownie

Now afterwards it's:

spents needs to move up to 160 face the winner of Triple GGG vs canola he's too big for 147

BWaHaahaHA!!!

[-Kev-]

GGG don't have issues making 160 either, yet his haters make 100 threads a day asking him to move up.

Are Spence and GGG in the same position?

One guy has been boxing pro for 11 years and is 35 years old. The other guy has been boxing pro for 4 years and is 27 years old. GGG critics were saying he needed to move up because there was nothing at 160. Spence critics are telling to move up for no reason.

When a fighter doesn't need to move up because he can still make the weight, but is in a weak weight class, he should move up. When a fighter doesn't need to move up because he can still make weight, and is in a good weight class, he should stay.

This concept may be hard to understand for you, but before you answer just try to grasp it a little first. Keep your GGG fanboyism to the side before replying. Use logic.

[Vlad_]

Fact is that GGG only needed 2 rounds to crack Brook's skull. Spence fought a cautious/broken/defeated Brook. A post GGG Brook.

[mbase1235]

I haven't been overly impressed by Spence against Kell Brook. Thurman will beat him. I feel Spence is too slow, flat-footed and predictable. I expect a competitive fight though because Spence is good, but I see Thurman winning a close decision.

Cats were saying that Spence was slow, flat-footed and only came forward before the Brook fight also, and that he was out of his league. When I saw Thurman running after taking a body shot from Collazo, that pretty much made up my mind who would win between Keith and Errol. I'm going with Spence. I don't believe that Thurman is going to avoid all those body shots.

[PunchyPotorff]

Obviously, anything can happen in a Thurman/Spence fight, but if you want to say Spence has a better I.Q. than Thurman IMO you'd be all wet. Thurman is just a smarter person in general. Spence may win, but it would be equal to him fighting an uninjured Brook. IOW not an easy task for a guy who has some serious leaks in his defense. Spence talks like it would be easy work, but really he's only fooling himself. He talked like his performance was down vs Brook, but what he may never admit is... Brook made him look sub par for several rounds there. And Thurman will do the same type thing. Make no mistake, if we're talking willpower, Thurman can match or beat Spence all day. There will be some serious back and forth and other drama, no matter who wins this one. But everyone needs to at least be fair and let Thurman heal properly, and then take a tuneup fight first. Just let Spence fight some other guy(s), and cool his **** while waiting.

[Dr.Cool]

Spence isn't too big for 147, he is too good for 147. Brook is a bigger fighter and was a top WW. So, yea when he beats a top WW who is one of the biggest WWs, when you beat a guy like that into submission, the only thing haters can say is- it's not fair for other guys his own size to fight him.

All the big paydays are at WW. That's because the WWs with Haymon actually fight each other. Its not like you have a Golovkin who avoids all legit talent for over a decade.

And yes, Spence does beat Thurman rather easily. Thurman practically craps his pants when he hears "Spence." Spence has been calling Thurman out for years, literally. When Thurman ran out of excuses he suddenly decided to have surgery to keep him out indefinitely. All Thurman has to do is stay "injured" long enough for some ABC to demand he face Peterson, his mandatory. Then the WBC will demand a rematch with Porter for that mandatory. Thurman has excuses built in. Only right now he didn't. He wasn't hurt, Spence just beat Brook into submission, and neither has a mandatory next. Thus, surgery a week before Spence took the last excuse out of Thurman by having a much more impressive victory than Thurman has ever had.

Thurman is a footnote. He is like Billie Joe at 160, he has a belt, but would get destroyed by the best in the division. Thurman needs to hurry up and take his ass whoopin like a man, so Spence can move on to bigger and better fights.

[Sledgeweather17]

Spence is far from being the new Mayweather, he's somehow limited in the skills department.


That's why he never was a great amateur.

But dude is big, strong and akward, he beat the best WW last week end IMO, even if Brook was coming off a loss.

Garcia is too small and Thurman and Porter aren't that great, he will clean up that division, but get beat if he moves up to 154 soon.

A Charlo bro would whoop his ass, let alone Andrade.

Jermell Charlo is Spence's regular sparring partner. So I'm sure he won't be worried about those 154lbers.

Jermell said that he didn't how much he needed to work on his craft still until he started sparring with Spence. They have the same trainer too so I think Spence will be ready for 154 when the time comes.

[Sledgeweather17]

No excuses, brook was in shape, healed & as ready as he would of ever been. I think Errol stops Thurman to the body but Thurman has the skills to stick & move to beat Errol.

If he couldn't keep Porter away what makes you think he can keep Spence away?

[Sledgeweather17]

Andre Berto said it best, Spence feels like King Kong right about now. He believes he can beat anyone in or around his weight.

Spence never said 140 to 160lbs.

[Dr.Cool]

Obviously, anything can happen in a Thurman/Spence fight, but if you want to say Spence has a better I.Q. than Thurman IMO you'd be all wet. Thurman is just a smarter person in general. Spence may win, but it would be equal to him fighting an uninjured Brook. IOW not an easy task for a guy who has some serious leaks in his defense. Spence talks like it would be easy work, but really he's only fooling himself. He talked like his performance was down vs Brook, but what he may never admit is... Brook made him look sub par for several rounds there. And Thurman will do the same type thing. Make no mistake, if we're talking willpower, Thurman can match or beat Spence all day. There will be some serious back and forth and other drama, no matter who wins this one. But everyone needs to at least be fair and let Thurman heal properly, and then take a tuneup fight first. Just let Spence fight some other guy(s), and cool his **** while waiting.

Thurman would beat Spence, but first he needs six months off, then a tune-up, then mandatories against Peterson and Porter.

If Thurman had any confidence that he could beat Spence, that would be his next fight. Brook made Spence look sub-par? Ok, and everyone who ever fought Mayweather "made" Floyd look subpar for the first four rounds too. What looks like an even, sub-par, hard-to-score round, is an early round where Spence is pounding the body. Thus, the opponent is gassed by the midway point. I love it, Spence didn't dominate every single round, so Thurman would beat him. Ok. Sure. Thurman's style is all wrong for Spence. It is. He wants to jump in and then back out. But when he does that to Spence he will be eating hard shots to the body every time. Until he starts protecting his body, then jarring shots to the head start.

The first few rounds of a fight are "feeling out." Watch Mayweather's fights, watch Hopkins fights, watch Ward-Kov. That Spence doesn't jump in recklessly, but actually adjusts based on what his opponent is doing, is not a flaw. That is what the greats do.