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  • MDPopescu
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    #61
    Originally posted by War Dinamita
    We have post phones and pre-paid phones. He's not going to buy a new phone/sim card to just have these conversations because Ward's lawyer also has fighters that are being trained by JDJ.
    OK, now I get it: you do have "pre-paid" SIMs/phones in the U.S.

    Then: in case if (and only if) the "tape" involves a pre-paid phone number, the "proof" isn't accepted in court (at least in my country)...

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    • mathed
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      #62
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
      There are rumors that there is a "tape" of the convos, so he cant deny they never took place or that they even talked money. He can only defend himself by saying they called me.

      I think that's what Ward was hinting at with "there is a trail."

      Regardless of who called who, the fact that he did say he would have jumped if they met his price says a lot about how unhappy he is.
      If they really had "tapes" then they should release them to cause drama and turmoil within Kovalev's camp right? Team coWARD is ALL about advantages, just like Mayweather's team was. Releasing the tapes only benefits him.

      That is of course either he is lying and they don't have any evidence or that they do have tapes but it directly contradicts what coWARD is saying/insinuating.

      The truth is probably much closer to his team called up, mid-camp trying to lure JDJ away much like Mayweather tried to lure Ariza away from Pac for the Mayweather fight. Only JDJ threw out some exorbitant number that he knew they would never have meet.

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        #63
        Originally posted by mathed
        If they really had "tapes" then they should release them to cause drama and turmoil within Kovalev's camp right? Team coWARD is ALL about advantages, just like Mayweather's team was. Releasing the tapes only benefits him.

        That is of course either he is lying and they don't have any evidence or that they do have tapes but it directly contradicts what coWARD is saying/insinuating.

        The truth is probably much closer to his team called up, mid-camp trying to lure JDJ away much like Mayweather tried to lure Ariza away from Pac for the Mayweather fight. Only JDJ threw out some exorbitant number that he knew they would never have meet.
        It's a rumour, Ward hasn't said they have tapes.

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        • Squ□redCircle34
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          #64
          Kov needs to drop JDJ after this fight and use this as more motivation to destroy Andre Son Of Judges Ward!!

          I don't know how boxers will trust Jackson this point forward!

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            #65
            Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
            Kov needs to drop JDJ after this fight and use this as more motivation to destroy Andre Son Of Judges Ward!!

            I don't know how boxers will trust Jackson this point forward!
            ... As I said above: Jackson is done as a "top level" boxing trainer...

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            • kafkod
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              #66
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              They said they were interested in it not only before Wards offer but after too. They even explained that Froch would be worth going to 168 for but Ward isn't.

              November 2015

              "We are interested in a fight with Carl. Gennady's main aim is to unify the middleweight titles, but a fight with Carl is one of the biggest fights in the sport today," he said. "Gennady's popularity is growing with every fight, and everyone knows Froch for those two major fights with Groves, and from Carl's time in the Super Six."

              http://www.inform.kz/en/loeffler-gol...ggest_a2844549



              March 2016

              "Absolutely [we would have fought Froch at 168], but you're not talking about fighting for ten cents. You're talking about going and fighting in front of 80,000 people. This is a business.....if he's going to go to England and make $10, $15 million dollars. How many people are here [at Oracle Arena]? Our guy is going to sell out The Forum. Why would we take a step backwards?," Sanchez explained.

              Abel Sanchez, trainer for IBF/IBO/WBA middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, explained why they were willing to face Carl Froch at the super middleweight limit of 168-pounds, but not Andre Ward (29-0, 15KOs).



              Wouldn't "move up to 168 for anybody" though. Idiot.
              Like I said, just loeffler answering hypothetical questions about possible fights and situations. He never tried to make a fight with Froch while GGG was waiting for his shot at the WBC MW belt though, so stop lying about it. And as you're so concerned with hypothetical fights, why do you think Ward would have gone to 160 for Floyd, but wouldn't go to 164 for GGG?

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                #67
                Originally posted by mathed
                If they really had "tapes" then they should release them to cause drama and turmoil within Kovalev's camp right? Team coWARD is ALL about advantages, just like Mayweather's team was. Releasing the tapes only benefits him.

                That is of course either he is lying and they don't have any evidence or that they do have tapes but it directly contradicts what coWARD is saying/insinuating.

                The truth is probably much closer to his team called up, mid-camp trying to lure JDJ away much like Mayweather tried to lure Ariza away from Pac for the Mayweather fight. Only JDJ threw out some exorbitant number that he knew they would never have meet.
                More rabies induced rabble.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  Like I said, just loeffler answering hypothetical questions about possible fights and situations. He never tried to make a fight with Froch while GGG was waiting for his shot at the WBC MW belt though, so stop lying about it. And as you're so concerned with hypothetical fights, why do you think Ward would have gone to 160 for Floyd, but wouldn't go to 164 for GGG?
                  They were open to it but Froch didn't want to negotiate, he announced his retirement.

                  They would have jumped at the chance to fight Froch, they've said they wanted to fight him years.

                  Stop trying to deflect. Why wouldn't Golovkin move down to fight Canelo or Lara? Because they aren't Mayweather.

                  Pathetic you're still trying to defend a clear duck. I don't even think Golovkin fans believe he didn't duck, they just feel they have to defend him.

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                    #69

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                    • kafkod
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      They were open to it but Froch didn't want to negotiate, he announced his retirement.

                      They would have jumped at the chance to fight Froch, they've said they wanted to fight him years.

                      Stop trying to deflect. Why wouldn't Golovkin move down to fight Canelo or Lara? Because they aren't Mayweather.

                      Pathetic you're still trying to defend a clear duck. I don't even think Golovkin fans believe he didn't duck, they just feel they have to defend him.
                      Yeah, GGG ducked everybody at 154 & 168 by fighting as a MW. ��

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