Comments Thread For: UFC's White: Mayweather-McGregor Does 2.5 To 4 Million Buys

[IronDanHamza]

I was shocked Floyd vs Manny did 4M+ lol. I didn't think that seemed reasonable when I heard that number getting thrown around after the fight.

Now that I know Floyd vs Manny did that much business & this fight feels bigger with the mainstream audience I feel like it for sure can do bigger numbers then Floyd vs Manny. I know people that have never bought any combat sports PPV, boxing or MMA, & who've never talking about or shown an interest in boxing or MMA who are talking about this fight. That's f#cking nuts to me.

Thing is though people gave Pacquaio a great chance. That's why it sold so well. FINALLY someone might beat him. Same as Canelo (lesser scale)

This fight doesn't have that and it will hurt it's buys I believe.

[Eff Pandas]

Thing is though people gave Pacquaio a great chance. That's why it sold so well. FINALLY someone might beat him. Same as Canelo (lesser scale)

This fight doesn't have that and it will hurt it's buys I believe.

You're thinking NSB logic. NSB logic is only in play for the tiny % of hardcore fans that live & die boxing all week long like most cats here.

I'm talking about the other 90%-98% of people who'll be buying this fight. I'm talking people that have seen part of 1 to 10 combat sporting contests in their life or haven't brought a PPV ever or since Mike Tyson. I'd bet like 25%+ of the people watching this won't be for sure if its taking place in a cage or a ring til they show the ring & even then I'd bet some cats will be wondering when they are gonna put up the cage.

Those are most of the millions who'll be buying this fight. Thats the reach this fight has. It'll be the 2nd biggest revenue generating fight in history....if they f#ck it up. If they do a halfass job it should be #1.

[Eff Pandas]

Nah I don't think so.

It will do big numbers but it's too much of a mismatch to do those kind of numbers.

I don't see it beating Mayweather-Pacquaio.

My guess is about 3 million.

You know what became the biggest boxing PPV of all time when it happened in 1995 & is still the 7th biggest PPV of all time?

Mike Tyson vs Peter McNeeley lol. And randomly it beat out Holyfield vs a 40 something Foreman for that #1 spot.

The freak show angle is in play just like for Tyson vs McNeely with Floyd vs Conor.

[IronDanHamza]

You're thinking NSB logic. NSB logic is only in play for the tiny % of hardcore fans that live & die boxing all week long like most cats here.

I'm talking about the other 90%-98% of people who'll be buying this fight. I'm talking people that have seen part of 1 to 10 combat sporting contests in their life or haven't brought a PPV ever or since Mike Tyson. I'd bet like 25%+ of the people watching this won't be for sure if its taking place in a cage or a ring til they show the ring & even then I'd bet some cats will be wondering when they are gonna put up the cage.

Those are most of the millions who'll be buying this fight. Thats the reach this fight has. It'll be the 2nd biggest revenue generating fight in history....if they f#ck it up. If they do a halfass job it should be #1.

Nah I'm talking casual logic.

Even the casuals know its a mismatch. It will hurt the numbers.

[IronDanHamza]

You know what became the biggest boxing PPV of all time when it happened in 1995 & is still the 7th biggest PPV of all time?

Mike Tyson vs Peter McNeeley lol. And randomly it beat out Holyfield vs a 40 something Foreman for that #1 spot.

The freak show angle is in play just like for Tyson vs McNeely with Floyd vs Conor.

Tyson vs McNeeley did big numbers because it was his first fight in years due to coming out of prison. No more no less.

If Tyson had fought McNeeley literally any time after it wouldn't gave generated anything and Tyson vs a barn door would have sold massively for his first fight out of prison.

[Hatesrats]

They should go all put with the circus match-ups for the undercard...

J'Leon Love Vs. Lawlor
Badu Jack Vs. Anderson Silva
Tank Davis Vs. Aldo

[Eff Pandas]

Tyson vs McNeeley did big numbers because it was his first fight in years due to coming out of prison. No more no less.

If Tyson had fought McNeeley literally any time after it wouldn't gave generated anything and Tyson vs a barn door would have sold massively for his first fight out of prison.

Thats a more wordy way of saying its was a freak show, just like Floyd vs Conor, to me & I'm a wordy guy myself.

But yea the casual boxing fan, sports fans & non-sports fan interest was off the charts for Tyson's return to boxing. Just like with this fight. People that never talked about boxing talked about Tyson's comeback just like they are with Floyd vs Conor.

And I guess my main critique here is there aren't 4M boxing fans dying for a reason to watch every boxing match on PPV if you merely give them a reason & the PPV number you end up with is how appealing & competitive that fight actually is for boxing fans.

You get the same 50k-400k hardcore boxing fans buying PPV's based on the overall appeal & competitiveness of the fight like you are bringing up, but its not a relevant topic the higher you go in reach for a fight. That number of interested parties grows as you appeal to the casual boxing fans. That number grows bigger as you appeal to sports fans. That number grows even bigger & to its highest levels as you reach non-sports fans. And the boxing IQ of those groups go down as you're reach is extended. This fight being huge isn't about hardcore boxing fans at all or there feelings about the competitiveness or anything else.

Tyson vs McNeely, Holyfield vs Foreman, Tyson vs Holyfield, Manny vs Floyd, Oscar vs Floyd & Manny & now Floyd vs Conor all held/hold appeal to the non-sports fan who knows f#k all about competitive fights. And Floyd vs Conor is on a whole other level with those non-sports fans then I've seen & definitely more then Floyd vs Manny.

[Eff Pandas]

Nah I'm talking casual logic.

Even the casuals know its a mismatch. It will hurt the numbers.

This fight extends further out then the casuals doe is what I'm saying.

Go listen to some of those Skip & Stephen Smith conversations. Those are casual fans. And sports fans are dumber about boxing. And non-sports fans are damn near ******ed about boxing. And this fight extends all the way out to non-sports fans like the biggest fights in boxing all had in common.

Like I said I'd bet on 25% or more people not knowing if this fight was taking place in a ring or a cage minutes before the fight starts if there was a way to prove or disprove it. Thats how knowledgable a good portion of the people buying this will be.

[IronDanHamza]

Thats a more wordy way of saying its was a freak show, just like Floyd vs Conor, to me & I'm a wordy guy myself.

But yea the casual boxing fan, sports fans & non-sports fan interest was off the charts for Tyson's return to boxing. Just like with this fight. People that never talked about boxing talked about Tyson's comeback just like they are with Floyd vs Conor.

And I guess my main critique here is there aren't 4M boxing fans dying for a reason to watch every boxing match on PPV if you merely give them a reason & the PPV number you end up with is how appealing & competitive that fight actually is for boxing fans.

You get the same 50k-400k hardcore boxing fans buying PPV's based on the overall appeal & competitiveness of the fight like you are bringing up, but its not a relevant topic the higher you go in reach for a fight. That number of interested parties grows as you appeal to the casual boxing fans. That number grows bigger as you appeal to sports fans. That number grows even bigger & to its highest levels as you reach non-sports fans. And the boxing IQ of those groups go down as you're reach is extended. This fight being huge isn't about hardcore boxing fans at all or there feelings about the competitiveness or anything else.

Tyson vs McNeely, Holyfield vs Foreman, Tyson vs Holyfield, Manny vs Floyd, Oscar vs Floyd & Manny & now Floyd vs Conor all held/hold appeal to the non-sports fan who knows f#k all about competitive fights. And Floyd vs Conor is on a whole other level with those non-sports fans then I've seen & definitely more then Floyd vs Manny.

Nah, it's not.

That was a very specific circumstance. It wasn't a freak show is was Mike Tyson fresh out of prison vs Who cares I'm buying it whoever it is.

Nothing alike to any other PPV ever.

This fight will do numbers I agree but it won't beat Pacquaio.

Mayweather-McGregor and Mayweather-Pacquaio both had the casual audience but ones a battle of its generation the other is a known mis match.

[Eff Pandas]

Nah, it's not.

That was a very specific circumstance. It wasn't a freak show is was Mike Tyson fresh out of prison vs Who cares I'm buying it whoever it is.

Nothing alike to any other PPV ever.

This fight will do numbers I agree but it won't beat Pacquaio.

Mayweather-McGregor and Mayweather-Pacquaio both had the casual audience but ones a battle of its generation the other is a known mis match.

Mike Tyson vs a barn door or Peter McNeeley is a freak show lets quit mincing words.

This Floyd vs Conor fight, assuming it happens, will be "nothing alike to any other PPV ever" too.

And sh^t I'm not saying it definitely beats Floyd vs Manny cuz I don't have faith in them not f#cking up the promotion, misplaying a hand or some random bs hurting it like some domestic abuse group making an impact & gaining massive ground in this SJW/white knight era with Floyd's previous criminal situation. I'm just saying worse case I can't envision this fight doesn't come 2nd to Floyd vs Manny in revenue & I can easily see it greatly past that number by a mill or two if things go right with the promotion.

Leonard Ellerbe is sorta ******ed I feel. If Slick Richard was behind this I'd believe in it a whole lot more that he does end up at 5M, 6M.

So if you're saying you see it at 3M we are basically in agreement outside of myself just seeing more potential upside past 3M.