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  • #51
    Nope. Thurman is no. 1 at the moment.

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    • #52
      I kind of knew Spence was going to win against Brook, too many variables for Kell to win that fight imho. Skill wise, Spence has surpassed Thurman imho. He would beat Porter, Garcia, and Thurman if they ever fight.

      Thurman isn't good on the inside, and his fight with Porter only further proved what I already knew about him. He also imo has a soft body, regardless of how he looks physically. Spence beats the brakes off Thurman. I actually think he'd have a harder time against Porter than either Garcia or Thurman.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by angkag View Post
        I thought Spence was number one BEFORE the Brook fight, but not so sure now based on his inability to handle Brook in the first 6 rounds. If Brook had maintained that for 12, Spence would have struggled to get a decision. I don't buy that Spence weakened Brook over the first 6 with body shots as there weren't enough of the clean, feet-planted, thudding body shots that you see from many fighters (the ones you feel at home just watching the fight) to account for Brook's slowdown. Brook of a couple of years ago would gone 12 without visibly slowing and dropping his guard as he did.

        Maybe I was just too high on Spence before...not sure....I still think he's going to make it to No. 1 as he will improve after the brook fight. But he needs to beat Thurman.
        That's a pathetic lie to say the Brook of a couple of years ago would have maintained for 12, because first of all Brook gassed in the second half of his fight against Carson Jones, and that was how many years ago?

        Ps. He also made the weight excuse then.

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        • #54
          he's got a good case...thurman vs spence for the lineal, how about it

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          • #55
            Spence gets credit for beating Brook but he can't proclaim himself #1 welter until he beats Thurman. Same applies to Thurman. He can no longer be top dog unless he beats Spence.

            Pacquiao will not fight either guy so he's automatically excluded for consideration. And I doubt he'll fight Crawford.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by The Time View Post
              Nah, Spence gets props for beating Brook.

              I have him as the favorite against Thurman too.

              If he cleans out 147, then he can move up to 154, if he looks great there, then he should look for a fight with Canelo. They're only 6 months apart in age.

              We have to see how Spence develops first.
              I agree brother, but Canelo a fight in front of him he can't over look. G is Canelo's

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Nomadic
                I agree brother, but Canelo has a fight in front of him he can't over look. G is Canelo's next crucible. I'm going with Canelo on this one. 12 round decision.
                I'm not sure who is going to win. Too many questions, intangibles to know for sure the outcome of Triple G vs Canelo.

                I have no prediction. I'm rooting for Triple G, I would like to see him win, and by knockout.

                But my assessment of the fight is I have no idea how it's going to turn out because a lot of different things can happen.

                So my prediction is I have no prediction.

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                • #58
                  For everyone saying Thurman is the top dog at 147...I figured Pacquiao was still?

                  If Spence was a smart guy he'd ****ing beg for a Pac fight. Do everything possible, **** talk, cause a controversial stir..just move the mountains he's gotta move to seal the fight down on paper. He will never have a bigger name than Pac on his resume if he passes him up. We're going to wake up one day and look on at welterweight thinking how good we used to have it.

                  Bottom line, Spence is taking too many liberties. He should learn that lesson from Brook if anything. Brook wasted a bunch of time. I'm sure the management side of things are more ****ed than we realize but please dear god dont let him fall into the Danny Garcia groove

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                    I didn't consider Brook #1 so I can't put SPence there. I think he beats Thurman but Keith has Garcia and Porter wins, and an overall better resume so he gets the first place spot.
                    While Thurman's overall resume is better, Spence looked better in all of his fights, and his win over Brook was far more impressive than any other WW. I would agree and put Thurman there for now, but if Thurman doesn't fight Spence his first fight back, I'd switch and give it to Spence. Spence has been calling out Thurman for years. Literally years. Other pro fighters have called for Thurman-Spence too. But all Thurman has are generic, sorry wannabe excuses. If Thurman wants the top spot he needs to fight the other top dog. Everyone knows Spence is ready and waiting, so it is up to Thurman.

                    I don't know why One Time waited until right before Spence-Brook to have surgery, but it definitely appears to be yet another move to avoid Spence. Honestly, considering styles and skills, I can't see Thurman beating Spence. I could see situations where either Garcia or Porter could, but Thurman beats both of them in a rematch. Styles make fights.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Dr.Cool View Post
                      I don't know why One Time waited until right before Spence-Brook to have surgery, but it definitely appears to be yet another move to avoid Spence. Honestly, considering styles and skills, I can't see Thurman beating Spence. I could see situations where either Garcia or Porter could, but Thurman beats both of them in a rematch. Styles make fights.
                      In his defense, Keith just fought Danny so I don't think the surgery timing was strategic. It might have been the soonest he could have been booked with whatever doc he went to.
                      That said, I don't think Keith is chomping at the bit to fight Spence. No one wants that kind of problem in their life.

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