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  • #21
    Originally posted by 4truth View Post
    He might be the best, can't say he isn't but there is a lot of work left to do. Other than Brook he has fought almost no one. Beating all or most of the top guys seems a prerequisite for being anointed "the best".

    I hope Brook recovers completely and we can see these 2 again at 154, might be a different story.
    Knocked out Bundu, Algieri, and Brook. Absolutely no other fighter at WW could do that. Even Koing one of them is tough for the best fighters at WW.

    Knocking out Brook proves he is indeed the best at WW.

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    • #22
      I thought Spence was number one BEFORE the Brook fight, but not so sure now based on his inability to handle Brook in the first 6 rounds. If Brook had maintained that for 12, Spence would have struggled to get a decision. I don't buy that Spence weakened Brook over the first 6 with body shots as there weren't enough of the clean, feet-planted, thudding body shots that you see from many fighters (the ones you feel at home just watching the fight) to account for Brook's slowdown. Brook of a couple of years ago would gone 12 without visibly slowing and dropping his guard as he did.

      Maybe I was just too high on Spence before...not sure....I still think he's going to make it to No. 1 as he will improve after the brook fight. But he needs to beat Thurman.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
        I didn't consider Brook #1 so I can't put SPence there. I think he beats Thurman but Keith has Garcia and Porter wins, and an overall better resume so he gets the first place spot.

        I kind of agree
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        I did not consider Pacquiao

        he only fights in-house guys..... other than Mayweather, it has been years since Pacquiao fought the best

        Thurman does have a slightly better resume, but Brook is a better win than Porter/Garcia

        I have Spence #1 because he has a better win than Thurman, and because I think he beats him head-to-head

        but yea, I wouldn't argue with you on that

        they need to fight, Spence/Thurman is the one to make

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        • #24
          Originally posted by angkag View Post
          I thought Spence was number one BEFORE the Brook fight, but not so sure now based on his inability to handle Brook in the first 6 rounds. If Brook had maintained that for 12, Spence would have struggled to get a decision. I don't buy that Spence weakened Brook over the first 6 with body shots as there weren't enough of the clean, feet-planted, thudding body shots that you see from many fighters (the ones you feel at home just watching the fight) to account for Brook's slowdown. Brook of a couple of years ago would gone 12 without visibly slowing and dropping his guard as he did.

          Maybe I was just too high on Spence before...not sure....I still think he's going to make it to No. 1 as he will improve after the brook fight. But he needs to beat Thurman.

          yea I possibly think so

          Brook is skilled and he put up a helluva fight

          great learning curve for Spence

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          • #25
            Dear Errol, I am a fan for sure. Proud of your recent achievement, but Thurman is #1. You have to beat the man, to be the man. I believe Keith has your number too

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            • #26
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              I kind of agree
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              I did not consider Pacquiao

              he only fights in-house guys..... other than Mayweather, it has been years since Pacquiao fought the best

              Thurman does have a slightly better resume, but Brook is a better win than Porter/Garcia

              I have Spence #1 because he has a better win than Thurman, and because I think he beats him head-to-head

              but yea, I wouldn't argue with you on that

              they need to fight, Spence/Thurman is the one to make
              Yep, Manny could have kept himself relevant but he perpetually remains Arum's puppet and the Horn thing really hurt his standing.

              I also consider Brook better than either Porter or Garcia, but not better than both of them combined. But, I think you and I are on the same page on this one.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by ceylon mooney View Post
                no but it makes you thurman and khan 3,4 and 5 in no particular order.

                bradley is a leap above the rest and pacquiao is a leap above bradley.
                I dare you to name a fighter Bradley beat at 147 that proves he's better than the current fighters and don't say Pac1 cause that was a robbery. I bet you he won't call out any of them except maybe Garcia, but I know he won't call out any of the champions

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                • #28
                  Bundu & Algieri??? Come on now. And so far as Brook is concerned just saying he knocked him out is leaving out most of the story. No, Spence might be all that but he's got a lot to prove yet.

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                  • #29
                    This is a tough one, in my eyes............yes Spence is the #1 at WW , but I can't be BIAS and I really think that I gotta give a boxer it's props once he's payed his dues.

                    A Brook win to me is better than a Porter and a Garcia but it does not beat those 2 combined so even thou I think Spence beats Thurman he still needs to beat him in that ring.

                    Now say what you want, Manny is not on his prime anymore and has been fighting softer opposition lately but the man is still a dangerous guy who can give any 147 all they can handle so Pac is still there stalking..

                    And to the final part, not right now but in the future I got my eyes on a 140 guy who is gonna be nightmares for any 147 in the world, Bud to me is the craftiest guy from 135-147 and if he transitions well into the 147 he's gonna be there knocking at Spence's Door.

                    So even thou I got Spence right now as my #1 WW he still needs to beat either Thurman or Pacquiao to consolidate it.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by ceylon mooney View Post
                      no but it makes you thurman and khan 3,4 and 5 in no particular order.

                      bradley is a leap above the rest and pacquiao is a leap above bradley.
                      This is laughable at best.
                      Which top dog did Bradley or Khan beat in the last couple of years?
                      Algerei and Vargas!
                      Pac, Thurman, Spence, Brook, Porter, Bradley,
                      Khan somewhere around Vargas at best

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