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  • HAMMER77777
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    #51
    Originally posted by koolkc107
    Didn't we crucify Floyd for fighting Berto?

    And rightfully so, but choosing Jeff Horn makes the Berto fight look like FOTY material.

    Why isn't Manny fighting Porter, or Garcia, or asking Bud to move up.

    Matthysse is ranked in the WBO, why not Lucas?

    This is nuts, but I hope Pac gets a decent payday anyway.

    If you are one of those folks who criticize other fighters for taking easy fights, you should be panning the Horn fight.
    He's not getting a pass from me. I like Manny, he seems like a nice guy, but he is 147 # champ (WBO) and needs to Fight the other division champs, Errol Spence, or 1 TIME, not Horn or these other cats!

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      #52
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      He should drop the title and retire then. If Mayweather hung around fighting Jeff Horns you'd be crying about it.
      Seriosly Pacs FOTD and has had 70 fights. He can fight who he wants if he can get away with it. Hes got nothing more to prove. If he wants to fight spence or thurman then its up to him.
      Floyd claimed he was the best and is seen as the best, so he cant get away with fighting berto. There are people out there willing to prove floyd isnt the best. Dont hold the BEST title hostage.
      Its not that difficult
      Last edited by hugh grant; 05-30-2017, 05:13 AM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Seriosly Pacs FOTD and has had 70 fights. He can fight who he wants if he can get away with it. Hes got nothing more to prove. If he wants to fight spence or thurman then its up to him.
        Floyd claimed he was the best so he cant get away with fighting berto.
        Its not that difficult
        He's keeping the belt hostage, somebody willing to actually fight good opposition could have it. We all know you pac turds hold Mayweather to a higher standard, because you know he's a greater fighter.

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        • hugh grant
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          #54
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          He's keeping the belt hostage, somebody willing to actually fight good opposition could have it. We all know you pac turds hold Mayweather to a higher standard, because you know he's a greater fighter.
          Pacs held to far, far higher standard than Floyd. Thats why Floyd can fight Maidana, Ortiz and Berto and not THurman, Spence or Brook or Bradley even.

          Pacs had far more fights than Floyd, more divisions so stop trying to compare Floyd to Pac. Floyds always try do as little as he can get away with and you promote that behaviour.

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            #55
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Pacs held to far, far higher standard than Floyd. Thats why Floyd can fight Maidana, Ortiz and Berto and not THurman, Spence or Brook or Bradley even.

            Pacs had far more fights than Floyd, more divisions so stop trying to compare Floyd to Pac.
            Pacquiao has avoided GBP and Haymon fighters since 2009.

            He got passes for fighting Bradley 3 times. Choosing Clottey over Mosley. Fighting a bullshit fight with Margarito. Etc....

            Now he's started to avoid Top Rank guys, $20 mil for a Crawford fight.
            Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 05-30-2017, 05:28 AM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by koolkc107
              Didn't we crucify Floyd for fighting Berto?

              And rightfully so, but choosing Jeff Horn makes the Berto fight look like FOTY material.

              Why isn't Manny fighting Porter, or Garcia, or asking Bud to move up.

              Matthysse is ranked in the WBO, why not Lucas?

              This is nuts, but I hope Pac gets a decent payday anyway.

              If you are one of those folks who criticize other fighters for taking easy fights, you should be panning the Horn fight.
              I'm not giving him a pass, and I'm not one of those who complained hard against Floyd-Berto either, the only complaint I had that time was I wished it would've been Khan, for him to finally shut up and get flattened again.
              And since he also won the poll that Floyd made years ago.

              Maybe the other guy was right; "the horn fight was so bad nobody even care to complain anymore" lol

              But at the end of the day, it's way obvious Pac's days are over and he only offers 25% of his mind to boxing. He has politics, business etc. He doesn't even know who these top young guns are, nor does he research about them, their backgrounds, their styles, who to beat to get credit etc etc. who's popular and who's not.

              When your goal is no longer to be the best, or to improve and learn, i think it's really best to retire.

              Floyd was also on peak of everything when he retired, and still has a lot of buzz, hence the criticism.
              Pac have not look amazing post floyd fight, and was constantly losing star power that's why attention and criticism are also way lesser.

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                #57
                Floyd was TBE doe while Manny is just an old boxer who had a hurt shoulder that TBE wouldn't allow him to take meds for.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

                  He got passes for fighting Bradley 3 times. Choosing Clottey over Mosley. Fighting a bullshit fight with Margarito. Etc....

                  Now he's started to avoid Top Rank guys, $20 mil for a Crawford fight.
                  PAC can fight who he wants. He beat prime Barrera and jmm yet still floyd no1.
                  Floyd can fight maidana and berto yet still be no1.
                  So why wouldn't floyd do that. The standards for floyd have always been lower he's been allowed to get away with it his whole career.
                  His legacy has paid price for short term gain though. That's why most boxing fans around world consider PAC greater than floyd.
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 05-30-2017, 07:10 AM.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by HAMMER77777
                    He's not getting a pass from me. I like Manny, he seems like a nice guy, but he is 147 # champ (WBO) and needs to Fight the other division champs, Errol Spence, or 1 TIME, not Horn or these other cats!
                    Exactly.

                    Give up the belt if you don't want to fight other contenders.

                    Or make this your last fight.

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                    • koolkc107
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by dibzvincent143
                      I'm not giving him a pass, and I'm not one of those who complained hard against Floyd-Berto either, the only complaint I had that time was I wished it would've been Khan, for him to finally shut up and get flattened again.
                      And since he also won the poll that Floyd made years ago.

                      Maybe the other guy was right; "the horn fight was so bad nobody even care to complain anymore" lol

                      But at the end of the day, it's way obvious Pac's days are over and he only offers 25% of his mind to boxing. He has politics, business etc. He doesn't even know who these top young guns are, nor does he research about them, their backgrounds, their styles, who to beat to get credit etc etc. who's popular and who's not.

                      When your goal is no longer to be the best, or to improve and learn, i think it's really best to retire.

                      Floyd was also on peak of everything when he retired, and still has a lot of buzz, hence the criticism.
                      Pac have not look amazing post floyd fight, and was constantly losing star power that's why attention and criticism are also way lesser.

                      He's holding a belt doe.

                      Belts the other champs want.

                      Either he vacates and does his senior circuit that way, or he fights, plain and simple.

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