Since when has being wanting to fight another day considered quitting or cowardly?

[champion4ever]

I ask that question because despite Kell Brook being over matched and coming in as a heavy betting underdog; He gave Errol Spence, Jr. The toughest fight of his career; In a hotly contested and highly competitive fight up until the 11th round, all the while displaying a tremendous amount of championship heart in the process.

He forced Spence to bite down and dig deep in order to win his title away from him. He didn't just lay down and give it away; No he forced Errol to overpower and take it from him. Yet some posters on NSB are calling him a quitter. I just don't understand.

So please explain what makes it so?

[Zaryu]

It's the age of the internet, where anonymity let's couch potatoes call fighters quitters without the fighter punching them in the mouth.

[Eff Pandas]

Hasn't that always been the case with the masses? I mean a lot of boxers are calling out Brook as a quitter including Bellew who was pretty much the first guy calling him publically for doing so.

I disagree with the logic, but I understand a lot of cats have that sorta logic so its not reallllllly a surprising a thing for me as it seems to be with you.

[Eff Pandas]

It's the age of the internet, where anonymity let's couch potatoes call fighters quitters without the fighter punching them in the mouth.

No its not. If you quit, however legit or unlegit, you get labeled a quitter if this was 30 years ago or last night. Nothings changed in that regard.

And look at all the "internet warriors" with professional boxing experience saying it to. F#cking Bellew was saying it a few minutes after the fight ended ffs lol.

And again I'm not saying I agree with that logic, cuz I don't & was saying as such since the fight took place, but its a quit regardless if you like what that means or how basic quitting gets you negative labels by the masses not just b^tches who's never been hit in the head.

[joe strong]

Vitali vs Byrd... He won every round & decided it was better to quit then get on his bike for a couple rounds. HBO guys were stunned! If I recall people thought it was Byrd who quit at first until they realized what happened...

[Zaryu]

No its not. If you quit, however legit or unlegit, you get labeled a quitter if this was 30 years ago or last night. Nothings changed in that regard.

And look at all the "internet warriors" with professional boxing experience saying it to. F#cking Bellew was saying it a few minutes after the fight ended ffs lol.

And again I'm not saying I agree with that logic, cuz I don't & was saying as such since the fight took place, but its a quit regardless if you like what that means or how basic quitting gets you negative labels by the masses not just b^tches who's never been hit in the head.

Yes it is. You can say fighters are saying it too, that doesn't change the fact that the internet gives the opportunity for plenty of nobodies to trash fighters without any regard to all the sacrifices fighters make.

It's this very age of the internet that has worsen the negative connotation the word "quit" has for fighters.

In regards to other fighters pulling out the quitter card, I think it's a way to make themselves look/feel better. For example, Bellew is never going to fight Brook, but saying Brook quit is a way to one up him.

[Eff Pandas]

Yes it is. You can say fighters are saying it too, that doesn't change the fact that the internet gives the opportunity for plenty of nobodies to trash fighters without any regard to all the sacrifices fighters make.

That's a bigger dynamic you are talking about then just this fight doe. Sure dummies behind a keyboard are more likely to call anyone a idiot, a quitter or a this or that. But quitting is still quitting to a large segment of the population hiding behind a keyboard.

This ain't that complicated regardless if you & I disagree with Brook being a "coward" or whatever term dummies use casually & even some non-dummies & pro boxers.

It's this very age of the internet that has worsen the negative connotation the word "quit" has for fighters.

Again that's a whole other conservation on the effect of the internet on EVERYTHING good or bad. EVERYTHING is enhanced good or bad because of the internet. Doesn't mean people didn't believe the same thing pre-internet which is the main point. Quitting has had negative words said about it forever regardless if it was 1,000 people saying it publically or 200,000 saying it on twitter, FB & social media + in public.

In regards to other fighters pulling out the quitter card, I think it's a way to make themselves look/feel better. For example, Bellew is never going to fight Brook, but saying Brook quit is a way to one up him.

Maybe. But I think its simplistic to think its JUST THAT & nothing else for everyone. To me Bellew seems like a pretty straight shooter with his commentating & when he's not just hyping a fight. And I thought he came off like he almost didn't wanna say what he was saying then he took some weird W over Brook or joy in saying what he said.

[Eff Pandas]

Vitali vs Byrd... He won every round & decided it was better to quit then get on his bike for a couple rounds. HBO guys were stunned! If I recall people thought it was Byrd who quit at first until they realized what happened...

Big fan of Byrd & legit LOLing at the thought of Vitali on his "bike" in a fight with Byrd for so many rounds.

But yea he coulda just kinda moved around the ring like everything was good for another 4 rounds without doing much & without much concern for taking much damage from Byrd's punches & just L'd out the last 4 rounds & still won by decision.

My assumption is he thought he wasn't up as much as he was or thought he was losing even. So it mighta not seemed as worthy of the risk to catch a L anyway + risk further damage to his body. Or the pain was really bad or maybe some perfect combo of those things.

[daggum]

some guys just dont like getting ko'd so they quit when they think thats about to happen. i would do the same but im a coward so i dont know...

[HarvardBlue]

Wanting to fight another day isn't quitting or cowardly. However, when you quit on your knees it's hard to overcome that visual. I remember when Gerald McClellan went to his knees twice against Nigel Benn. No one knew at the time what was going on but it looked like he gave up until we realized he was in serious trouble. Although eyesight is important it's hard for boxing fans to understand when a fighter takes a knee and the extent of his injuries don't turn out to be dire or life threatening. I hate to go to that extreme but that's the nature of the sport that a lot of us are fans.