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Originally posted by angkag View PostA lot of the perceptions on how this fight might go are based on how Golovkin looked against Jacobs (Jacobs made him look human) and how Canelo looked against Chavez (Chavez made him look like superman).
Just imagine that instead, we had Canelo vs Jacobs and Golovkin vs Chavez in the build-up.
Would Canelo have steam-rolled Jacobs ? Doubt it, not sure he would even win.
Would Golovkin have steam-rolled that version of Chavez ? Methinks Chavez would still be in hospital.
So the pre-fight perceptions could have been much different.
But styles make fights. Canelo doesn't have Jacobs size and foot movement, so there will be a lot more contact as they will be in each others range more often. I think to get punches home Golovkin will have to eat some, and Canelo has some pretty quick hands to counter with combos. The fight will come down to how Golovkin feels Canelo's counters - if he realises early he could be hurt, he will be more cautious and if its defence and tactical, it would make for close fight. If Golovkin isn't feeling Canelo's punches and starts to march through them, Canelo will get overwhelmed.
So an interesting fight, I suspect neither will take chances at outset and quite a bit of feeling out and getting the distance for at least a couple of rounds. I suspect someone will land something big around the 3rd, and a fight will break out. If Golovkin backs off and stays cautious, Canelo on points. If Golovkin goes berserk, it will be Hagler v Hearns II.
Canelo can't keep the distance with his feet like Jacobs did, he will have to do it with his fists.
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Originally posted by angkag View PostA lot of the perceptions on how this fight might go are based on how Golovkin looked against Jacobs (Jacobs made him look human) and how Canelo looked against Chavez (Chavez made him look like superman).
Just imagine that instead, we had Canelo vs Jacobs and Golovkin vs Chavez in the build-up.
Would Canelo have steam-rolled Jacobs ? Doubt it, not sure he would even win.
Would Golovkin have steam-rolled that version of Chavez ? Methinks Chavez would still be in hospital.
So the pre-fight perceptions could have been much different.
But styles make fights. Canelo doesn't have Jacobs size and foot movement, so there will be a lot more contact as they will be in each others range more often. I think to get punches home Golovkin will have to eat some, and Canelo has some pretty quick hands to counter with combos. The fight will come down to how Golovkin feels Canelo's counters - if he realises early he could be hurt, he will be more cautious and if its defence and tactical, it would make for close fight. If Golovkin isn't feeling Canelo's punches and starts to march through them, Canelo will get overwhelmed.
So an interesting fight, I suspect neither will take chances at outset and quite a bit of feeling out and getting the distance for at least a couple of rounds. I suspect someone will land something big around the 3rd, and a fight will break out. If Golovkin backs off and stays cautious, Canelo on points. If Golovkin goes berserk, it will be Hagler v Hearns II.
Canelo can't keep the distance with his feet like Jacobs did, he will have to do it with his fists.
Dude sit to much on the ropes, fight by spots.
Versus GGG you have to fight every second of the fight, that's what Jacobs did, dude was on fire for 36 minutes.
Canelo is more ice than fire.
But I doubt he can ice triple.
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Originally posted by Junbengreat View PostSlow, no head movement. You basically described ggg
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Originally posted by BillyBoxing View PostBut unlike Jacobs, Nelo has head movements to save him.
Jacobs was getting tagged all night long by a jab from a shorter man.
Nelo will move his head and place his counters.
I just think Nelo counterpunching won't be effective enough to save his ass from a GGG beating.
Jacobs had the power to keep GGG carefull and honnest.
Not sure about Nelo.
Jacobs has so much more leverage/lenght and weight in his punches than Nelo...
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Originally posted by The plunger man View PostJacobs would beat canelo also......look the bottom line is canelo is a flat footed cannot fight going backwards and sitiing with his back on the ropes will add to his downfall....golovkins jab and relentless in your face attack will take canelo deeper and deeper into rough waters and by the 10th round canelo will be a broken man...canelo is not a big puncher at middleweight who in my opinion has never felt the kind of power and pace a fired up golovkin is going to bring..canelo cannot win this fight in my eyes
He beat Cotto, Shane, Lara and Trout.
Ok some were olds, some decisions were close decisions, but still...
We can't act like dude will get steam rolled like Monroe fck mangoose jr.
Dude has movements we're almost not seeing anymore in boxing.
But Golovkin is also a special fighter, you don't become a world champion in ams and pros being a average or just good.
Nelo might probably have the success Kell had early versus Gennady, and Nelo will bring heavier blows.
Nelo is in the fight.
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Originally posted by The plunger man View PostJacobs would beat canelo also......look the bottom line is canelo is a flat footed cannot fight going backwards and sitiing with his back on the ropes will add to his downfall....golovkins jab and relentless in your face attack will take canelo deeper and deeper into rough waters and by the 10th round canelo will be a broken man...canelo is not a big puncher at middleweight who in my opinion has never felt the kind of power and pace a fired up golovkin is going to bring..canelo cannot win this fight in my eyes
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Postaaah, I see where you went wrong.....
Canelo made Chavez keep his hands at home, and Chavez has actually been in there with light heavyweights
Golovkin aint walking through Canelo
their plan-A sounds about as good as Barrera's was for Ward
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Originally posted by BillyBoxing View PostAgreed, GGG is a much more active fighter, and if Canelo doesn't have the pop to slow down triple, he will end like Martin Murray somehow in the 11th.
Dude sit to much on the ropes, fight by spots.
Versus GGG you have to fight every second of the fight, that's what Jacobs did, dude was on fire for 36 minutes.
Canelo is more ice than fire.
But I doubt he can ice triple.
Nelo's problem is he's supposed to Leonard his Hagler in GGG but doesn't have good feet wich is a pitty for the smaller man.
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