Comments Thread For: Joshua Could Lose IBF Belt Prior To Klitschko II, Pulev Stands Firm

[aboutfkntime]

When you have four champions and four mandatories, the best case scenario is 1-8 holding those positions. Are you saying he's never been deserving of being the #8 heavyweight in the world?

I am saying, that you are a tool for supporting the main problem that has plagued boxing for DECADES

the bold is the problem, and yet you are using that as an excuse?

knowledgeable fans view the ABC bodies with disdain and contempt..... not just because of the greed and corruption, and not just because each and every single one of them has repeatedly put their own selfish interests ahead of the sport..... but because you simply cannot have 4 champions and NONE of those ABC bodies are definitive

since the conception of the WBC..... not one of those organisations has ever been definitive, EVER

not bashing the lame IBF, because not one of them has EVER got it right

[original zero]

Securing a mandatory should include at least beating a guy in the top 10. no?

A year ago, the IBF rankings were:

#1 Vacant
#2 Vacant
#3 Takam
#4 Parker
#5 Pulev
#6 Chisora


Takam fought Parker for #1 and Pulev fought Chisora for #2.

#1 Parker was then supposed to fight #2 Pulev, but Parker vacated his position to pursue the WBO title. Leaving Pulev as the mandatory.

[original zero]

I am saying, that you are a tool for supporting the main problem that has plagued boxing for DECADES

I am not supporting anything, so what you are saying is false. My hope is that Al Haymon will put all of the sanctioning bodies out of business or severely cripple them so American boxing fans have one clear cut premier championship to follow instead of four.

knowledgeable fans view the ABC bodies with disdain and contempt..... not just because of the greed and corruption, and not just because each and every single one of them has repeatedly put their own selfish interests ahead of the sport..... but because you simply cannot have 4 champions and NONE of those ABC bodies are definitive

And experienced industry veterans realize the promoters and networks are to blame. The sanctioning bodies are unnecessary middle men that the promoters and networks fund and encourage in an effort to trick the public.

If you want 1 champion, you need a monopoly like every other sport. Al Haymon is the best chance of there someday being a monopoly and therefore 1 champion.

since the conception of the WBC..... not one of those organisations has ever been definitive, EVER

There were multiple organizations long before the WBC. The NYSAC, IBU & NBA simply morphed into the WBC & WBA. The creation of the IBF & WBO are what really ****ed things up. Blame Bob Arum for both of those.

not bashing the lame IBF, because not one of them has EVER got it right

You act like the sanctioning bodies have any actual power. They only have the power voluntarily given to them by the promoters and networks.

The bodies exist because the promoters and networks want them to. So the bodies can take all the heat while the promoters and networks benefit from having more "world" title fights.

[aboutfkntime]

A year ago, the IBF rankings were:

#1 Vacant
#2 Vacant
#3 Takam
#4 Parker
#5 Pulev
#6 Chisora


Takam fought Parker for #1 and Pulev fought Chisora for #2.

#1 Parker was then supposed to fight #2 Pulev, but Parker vacated his position to pursue the WBO title. Leaving Pulev as the mandatory.

you are missing the point.....

#3 Takam, #4 Parker, #5 Pulev, #6 Chisora.... is a terrible ranked heavyweight list

a year ago, Parker had only beaten one guy even slightly worth-a-damn..... and guess what, that was Takam

TERRIBLE !!

why support TERRIBLE, especially when it is clearly NOT in the best interests of boxing?

[aboutfkntime]

I am not supporting anything, so what you are saying is false. My hope is that Al Haymon will put all of the sanctioning bodies out of business or severely cripple them so American boxing fans have one clear cut premier championship to follow instead of four.




And experienced industry veterans realize the promoters and networks are to blame. The sanctioning bodies are unnecessary middle men that the promoters and networks fund and encourage in an effort to trick the public.

If you want 1 champion, you need a monopoly like every other sport. Al Haymon is the best chance of there someday being a monopoly and therefore 1 champion.




There were multiple organizations long before the WBC. The NYSAC, IBU & NBA simply morphed into the WBC & WBA. The creation of the IBF & WBO are what really ****ed things up. Blame Bob Arum for both of those.




You act like the sanctioning bodies have any actual power. They only have the power voluntarily given to them by the promoters and networks.

The bodies exist because the promoters and networks want them to. So the bodies can take all the heat while the promoters and networks benefit from having more "world" title fights.

if there is even the slightest truth in any of that - and I can only see a few small spots - then why do YOU spend so much time justifying (therefore supporting) the IBF?..... especially in light of their ridiculous decisions, ridiculous decisions that are clearly not in the best interests of boxing?

[original zero]

you are missing the point.....

#3 Takam, #4 Parker, #5 Pulev, #6 Chisora.... is a terrible ranked heavyweight list

those were the top heavyweights pursuing the IBF title at the time. there are four organizations. four sets of rankings. the IBF's job is to rank the best fighters interested in fighting for the IBF. who exactly should they have been ranking that they weren't ranking?

why support TERRIBLE, especially when it is clearly NOT in the best interests of boxing?

the problem is that you don't know what words mean. i'm not supporting anything. is english not your first language? be honest.

[original zero]

then why do YOU spend so much time justifying (therefore supporting) the IBF?

that's not how words work. what is your first language?

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you are missing the point.....

#3 Takam, #4 Parker, #5 Pulev, #6 Chisora.... is a terrible ranked heavyweight list

a year ago, Parker had only beaten one guy even slightly worth-a-damn..... and guess what, that was Takam

TERRIBLE !!

why support TERRIBLE, especially when it is clearly NOT in the best interests of boxing?

It's a pretty normal list as far as alphabet orgs are concerned. WBO for example is:
C: Parker
1. Hughie (yes Hughie) Fury
2. Hammer
3. Pulev

And I'm sure the others are as bad or worse.

IBF just sticks to its own imperfect rules a lil more than the other orgs but they're all subject to the fractured state of boxing.

[aboutfkntime]

that's not how words work. what is your first language?

you have valiantly defended them on numerous occasions

the last time you denied it, I posted you a link to a whole thread

[original zero]

you have valiantly defended them on numerous occasions

the last time you denied it, I posted you a link to a whole thread

why are you ducking the question? what is your first language?

defend and support are totally different things.

if you said hitler ****d his sister and it wasnt true, i would point out that it wasnt true. that wouldnt mean i support hitler. thats not how words work.