Thomas Hearns vs Errol Spence

[sugar ray lenrd]

Spence is basically a middle weight. He walks around at like 165. Plus, he is a better boxer than Hagler.

Okay you don't understand how professional boxing goes...Let me explain to you, Hagler in his fighting days walked around 185-190 lbs dig it! Better yet this is how it goes;
-Carl Frampton's walk around weight is 145-150 lbs.
-Lomachenko's " " " " 150-155 lbs
-Mikey Garcia " " " " 155-160 lbs
-Crawford " " " " 160-165 lbs
-Kieth Thurman " " " " 170-175 lbs
-Jarrett Hurd " " " " 180-185 lbs
-GGG " " " " 185-190 lbs
-Ward " " " " 195-200 lbs

*WALK AROUND WEIGHT DOES NOT MEAN FIGHTING WGT


*Spence is a Welterwgt (147lbs) there is a reason why he is fighting at that wgt & not at Jr Middlewgt (154 lbs) & or Middlewgt (160 lbs)

[Sheldon312]

Okay you don't understand how professional boxing goes...Let me explain to you, Hagler in his fighting days walked around 185-190 lbs dig it! Better yet this is how it goes;
-Carl Frampton's walk around weight is 145-150 lbs.
-Lomachenko's " " " " 150-155 lbs
-Mikey Garcia " " " " 155-160 lbs
-Crawford " " " " 160-165 lbs
-Kieth Thurman " " " " 170-175 lbs
-Jarrett Hurd " " " " 180-185 lbs
-GGG " " " " 185-190 lbs
-Ward " " " " 195-200 lbs

*WALK AROUND WEIGHT DOES NOT MEAN FIGHTING WGT

Correction, Spence reportedly walks around at 180. That was my mistake. Here, this is what i'm going to do. I'm a go back and watch some more of Hearn's and Spence's fights. Then i'll do a fantasy break down.

[sugar ray lenrd]

Correction, Spence reportedly walks around at 180. That was my mistake. Here, this is what i'm going to do. I'm a go back and watch some more of Hearn's and Spence's fights. Then i'll do a fantasy break down.

So that would put him up at least with Jr Middlewgt (154 lbs). But if you check my chart out I was off by 5 lbs. Which makes him still too small for Hagler. Don't waste your time, Hearns beat him anyway, don't get me wrong Spence is en route to rule the Welterwgt division. If anything like Leonard in the beginning he was too small to fight Hagler (some say that he ducked Hagler, not true he was a welter & hagler a middlewgt). Eventually it took him years to grow into a middlewgt. In other words Spence has to grow into a middlewgt first.

[sugar ray lenrd]

Correction, Spence reportedly walks around at 180. That was my mistake. Here, this is what i'm going to do. I'm a go back and watch some more of Hearn's and Spence's fights. Then i'll do a fantasy break down.

Also, and i'll repeat this again, Walk around weight does not mean fighting weight

[Sheldon312]

So that would put him up at least with Jr Middlewgt (154 lbs). But if you check my chart out I was off by 5 lbs. Which makes him still too small for Hagler. Don't waste your time, Hearns beat him anyway, don't get me wrong Spence is en route to rule the Welterwgt division. If anything like Leonard in the beginning he was too small to fight Hagler (some say that he ducked Hagler, not true he was a welter & hagler a middlewgt). Eventually it took him years to grow into a middlewgt. In other words Spence has to grow into a middlewgt first.

I was looking at it from a welter vs welter standpoint. Hearns may bad been taller but Spence is stronger plus he hits very hard and is great at cutting off the ring. at 147 Hearns never faced someone like Spence who had the pop and the ability to stalk his prey. You could bring up Ray Leonard but I am a firm believer that styles make fights. Based off the first Duran vs Leonard you could make an argument that Spence would beat him too.

[Michael1437]

Maybe we should wait until Spence beats all the top WW's before we start saying he'd beat guys like Hearns, Hagler or SRL.

[sugar ray lenrd]

I was looking at it from a welter vs welter standpoint. Hearns may bad been taller but Spence is stronger plus he hits very hard and is great at cutting off the ring. at 147 Hearns never faced someone like Spence who had the pop and the ability to stalk his prey. You could bring up Ray Leonard but I am a firm believer that styles make fights. Based off the first Duran vs Leonard you could make an argument that Spence would beat him too.

Well lets look at this from a welterwgt standpoint. Now i will grant you that Spence does has pop in his punches. He has a lot of KO's almost as similar to Hearns (Hearns in 22 bouts had KO 21 opponents). Lets see how Spence handles Thurman. It's still too soon to measure him against Leonard. In all honesty Spence wins over Bundu, Algeri's & Brook cannot compared to Leonard's wins over Hearns, Duran & Benitez.

But make no mistake about it Spence is one Baaad MoFo!

[Sheldon312]

Well lets look at this from a welterwgt standpoint. Now i will grant you that Spence does has pop in his punches. He has a lot of KO's almost as similar to Hearns (Hearns in 22 bouts had KO 21 opponents). Lets see how Spence handles Thurman. It's still too soon to measure him against Leonard. In all honesty Spence wins over Bundu, Algeri's & Brook cannot compared to Leonard's wins over Hearns, Duran & Benitez.

But make no mistake about it Spence is one Baaad MoFo!

Fair enough. Be on the look out for that fantasy breakdown. I have a lot of fights to watch.

[sugar ray lenrd]

Maybe we should wait until Spence beats all the top WW's before we start saying he'd beat guys like Hearns, Hagler or SRL.

I understand that Sheldon wants to compare Spence with the likes of Hearns & Leonard for they were welterwgts like him. But please he shouldn't compare him to Hagler when Spence hasn't even fought as a Jr Middlewgt & Hagler was a middlewgt.

[The Time]

Maybe we should wait until Spence beats all the top WW's before we start saying he'd beat guys like Hearns, Hagler or SRL.

Exactly........and not only that but also wait and see how he does at 154 and 160.

Way too premature for these kind of comparisons.