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  • Boxing Logic
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    #31
    Originally posted by My Low Place
    MEANWHILE BETERBIEV TURNED THE KOVALEV DEAL DOWN...and kovalev is the one who left bids taht would do teh stevenson fight...

    but it's easy to throw stevenson hate still??

    morons like u make me hate that i talk boxing on here on the daily
    No, Stevenson is the one who first left HBO, then petitioned the WBC to get the purse bid moved up knowing Kovalev wouldn't have financial backing in time to stay in the bid if they moved it up. He could have just waited until the original purse bid date that Duva petitioned for, and the purse bid would have gone off and the fight might have happened. But Stevenson made another strategic DUCK move to move the purse bid up.

    This is why you're frustrated talking boxing with us. Because you are missing the key detail in the story that changes who is to blame for the fight not happening. Because you fail to realize you cannot name one time Stevenson ever tried to make the Kovalev fight. It was always Kovalev's side calling him out, asking HBO to make it next, petitioning the WBC to make Kovalev the mandatory, etc etc etc etc. Always Kovalev's side pushing to make the fight, always Stevenson's side making strategic maneuvers to avoid the fight.

    Just because Stevenson's side was successful in ducking, and successful in using strategy to push Kovalev out of the purse bid, you want to credit them lol?

    You've had it backwards the whole time. Now you can either realize everyone is wrong sometimes and re-evaluate things, or you can be like 90% of the people on here and just go on blaming everyone else for your disagreements with them, never being open to the possibility that you might have it wrong, not them.

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    • My Low Place
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      #32
      Originally posted by Boxing Logic
      No, Stevenson is the one who first left HBO, then petitioned the WBC to get the purse bid moved up knowing Kovalev wouldn't have financial backing in time to stay in the bid if they moved it up. He could have just waited until the original purse bid date that Duva petitioned for, and the purse bid would have gone off and the fight might have happened. But Stevenson made another strategic DUCK move to move the purse bid up.

      This is why you're frustrated talking boxing with us. Because you are missing the key detail in the story that changes who is to blame for the fight not happening. Because you fail to realize you cannot name one time Stevenson ever tried to make the Kovalev fight. It was always Kovalev's side calling him out, asking HBO to make it next, petitioning the WBC to make Kovalev the mandatory, etc etc etc etc. Always Kovalev's side pushing to make the fight, always Stevenson's side making strategic maneuvers to avoid the fight.

      Just because Stevenson's side was successful in ducking, and successful in using strategy to push Kovalev out of the purse bid, you want to credit them lol?

      You've had it backwards the whole time. Now you can either realize everyone is wrong sometimes and re-evaluate things, or you can be like 90% of the people on here and just go on blaming everyone else for your disagreements with them, never being open to the possibility that you might have it wrong, not them.
      suck a fuggin liar...that bold statement is just comical..kovalev just got even more hated bc knowing fraud liars like u exist just tee's me off

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      • BoxHec
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        #33
        Originally posted by jackblack008
        Botox lady first threw Barrera under the bus. Contradicted herself several times and now she has audacity to speak shyte again
        You probably have more respect for Botox-dudes... and maybe you believe that botox is only for males...

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        • Bronx2245
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          #34
          Originally posted by My Low Place
          alvarez is getting bute and pascal back to back..so u're wrong here..these are the 2 fights he wanted even last year

          beterbiev is feared and unknown...no promoter can help that..only the ranking systems will hep him
          I think protecting Stevenson's interests are priority #1, and Artur & Eleider are no longer satisfied!

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          • CONTROVERSIAL
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            #35
            What a liar lmfao.... He hasnt got a fight because he is looking for a suitable opponent since barerra pissed his thongs....

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            • My Low Place
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              #36
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              I think protecting Stevenson's interests are priority #1, and Artur & Eleider are no longer satisfied!
              dude i have quotes from november of 2016 of alvarez telling him that his team didnt want him to go after stevenson...WTF DOES A PROMOTER HAVE TO DO WITH THAT??
              u really think alvarez struggles with chilemba but threatens stevenson that much?? watch more boxing bro..less commenting

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              • robbyheartbaby
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                #37
                Beterbiev's career has turned to absolute s***, it's done, he got offered Kovalev, turned it down thinking he would get more money as mandatory, now he's ballsed that up as well. He had a nice start to his career but at 34 and too much piss farting around he's up against it now.

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                • Bronx2245
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by My Low Place
                  dude i have quotes from november of 2016 of alvarez telling him that his team didnt want him to go after stevenson...WTF DOES A PROMOTER HAVE TO DO WITH THAT??
                  u really think alvarez struggles with chilemba but threatens stevenson that much?? watch more boxing bro..less commenting
                  Didn't Kovalev struggle with Chilemba? Maybe I watch too much boxing. I think Alvarez and Beterbiev were repeating talking points given to them by their promoter. That's nothing new in boxing! However, they want their shots now, and GYM is failing them. Beterbiev is the first to go!

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                  • My Low Place
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245
                    Didn't Kovalev struggle with Chilemba? Maybe I watch too much boxing. I think Alvarez and Beterbiev were repeating talking points given to them by their promoter. That's nothing new in boxing! However, they want their shots now, and GYM is failing them. Beterbiev is the first to go!

                    kov didnt struggle he just didnt look his best or good enough to beat stevenson or ward that night.....we know the top 3 have to look perfect each night just about bc of comparisons to each other..

                    alvarez's actually states that his trainer sat him down and went over the fights for him...so this isnt promoter talk.

                    alvarez failed himself he took step aside money that he could have turned down...NOTHING HAS CHANGED..HE'S NOT READY FOR THE FIGHT BASEDO N THAT

                    and beterbiev was failed by the cuban ducking..that is just that on that.

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                    • kej718
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      wat...

                      kovalev tried to figth him and give him 500k and that wasnt good enough. you cant expect good fighters to fight for 50k. that's garbage. its a way of saying look he's ducking me he won't let me rob him! then you go and fight some desperate guy like koelling who needs the money. they could have come to terms before the purse bid or bid a lot in the purse bid. they did neither. its not barreras fault pbc and beterbiev are broke. he knows there's money at hbo not to mention more viewers so he went there
                      Kovalevs promoter doesn't pay anyone. Kovalev had to fight for free in the past. Artur wanted to be the #1 contender so the fight could go to a purse bid, and both fighters would make more right?

                      Dude was the champ and got treated like a challenger his last fight because his promoter sucks and lies all the time. Beterbiev will be the mandatory after he wins.

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