I hear rumours that Wilder will be fighting Stiverne again next, is this true?

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  • JWHardin
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    #31
    Wilder has two choices, fight Stiverne as his mandatory, or unify with one of the other champions. It doesn't sound like Parker wants it, and Joshua it sounds like will be fighting Pulev.

    No one wants to see him vs Stiverne again, but that is up to the WBC to decide, not Wilder.

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      #32
      Originally posted by richardt
      When a fighter has fought Wlad, they have started to fight the best of the division which is what I said and Wlad clearly showed he is still an elite heavyweight who would be favored over most top heavyweights. Wilder calling out AJ doesnt mean AJ is avoiding Wilder. Boxing history and this site is littered with people claiming ducking only to have to eat their words later. It has been laughable how epidemic the ducking statements have come along only to be shot down by the countless matchups.
      As they say in Hollywood "once a star always a threat." However the 17 month layoff plus being 41 years of age takes his toll. AJ should have lost that fight 2 to 3 times. Even early in the fight when AJ was winning Wlad was backing him up. The fight was more about what Wlad wasn't doing more than what AJ was doing. And I wasn't that impressed with AJ's performance although the fight was epic.

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        #33
        Originally posted by richardt
        When a fighter has fought Wlad, they have started to fight the best of the division which is what I said and Wlad clearly showed he is still an elite heavyweight who would be favored over most top heavyweights. Wilder calling out AJ doesnt mean AJ is avoiding Wilder. Boxing history and this site is littered with people claiming ducking only to have to eat their words later. It has been laughable how epidemic the ducking statements have come along only to be shot down by the countless matchups.
        This ducking madness is part of the NSB culture. I didn't create it. On NSB it is understood that if you're the A side it is on you to make the fights the public want to see. They're are not many fights for AJ that are bigger than Wilder. A Wlad rematch and Tyson Fury is all. And is AJ going to wait 9 months for Fury to drop the weight?

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          #34
          Parker doesn't seem to want that work. He'd rather have sparring sessions with bums in NZ and milk the belt. Sad but it is what it is.

          Stiverne 2 it is..

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            #35
            Stiverne is the WBC #1 contender and Wilder is mandated to fight him...unless he can get a unification fight instead.

            Anthony Joshua has mandatory commitments of his own right now so he's off the table.

            But why aren't you blaming Joseph Parker for not stepping up and unifying with Deontay? He just fought and is free to face whoever he wants at the moment.
            Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 05-14-2017, 11:43 AM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by ashadam
              Redd your normally spot on but so wrong this time take your national eyes off and put your boxing ones in. Wilder has been calling out everyone knowing that Stiv would be mandatory. Come on Redd you cant defend this.
              He's calling out the other Champs because the only way to avoid a Stiverne rematch is a unification. He doesn't want to fight Stiverne but if he can't get Parker or Joshua he has to fight him

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                #37
                Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                That's seriously some biased nonsense. Wilder is begging Parker to fight him this summer and he's not getting any response. He flew out to the AJ fight and AJ mentioned everybody but he and Ortiz. He didn't think that it might be a good idea to mention the other HW title holder who happened to be right there??

                I don't care if people think Wilder is untalented. I think he's an uncoordinated mess. But, this nonsense where people blame him for everything is just ******. He might not be the most talented HW but the guy is actually trying to get decent fights now and isn't getting any response. It's time to be honest.

                And, I'll add that EVERYONE in the division is ducking Ortiz. Including Wilder.
                No thats what actually happened !

                Want to bet he fights Bellew next or someone on those lines and he doesnt fight Joshua until 2019?

                You could be right on Ortiz but Joshua CANT fight him if Joshua has the rematch or Pulev or he loses a belt ,The only guy that literally DUCKED Ortiz WAS Wilder who was ranked in his own organization and out right said NO to the fight and went for Washington a novice( yes Wilder and his team create these circumstances barring Povetkin and he even admitted to that his previous choice before Washington wasnt even as good? lmao) .

                Joshua hasnt even been champion for a year ,he wouldn't have time to duck anyone ,he fought Klitchko didnt he ?these are facts .
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 05-14-2017, 10:51 AM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                  Parker and AJ won't go near him so what's the man to do?
                  Why is it that no one ever acknowledges this? Is it because it goes against their moronic talking points? Wilder wants Parker next, point blank period.
                  Last edited by SkillspayBills; 05-14-2017, 10:41 AM.

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                    #39
                    Wilder wants to unify with Parker who wants no part of wilder right now. Ortiz is a ped user and wilder said he's not wasting his time with dirty fighters any more but morons on this sight put wilder down for setting standards and call him all sorts of names am I missing something here?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                      This ducking madness is part of the NSB culture. I didn't create it. On NSB it is understood that if you're the A side it is on you to make the fights the public want to see. They're are not many fights for AJ that are bigger than Wilder. A Wlad rematch and Tyson Fury is all. And is AJ going to wait 9 months for Fury to drop the weight?
                      Quite likely, considering he has mandatories to fight too.

                      Likelihood is Wilder is going to have to wait until after AJ has fought potentially a Klitschko rematch, definitely Pulev, maybe Ortiz and maybe Fury. All of that is perfectly reasonable considering that:
                      • Klitschko has a rematch clause
                      • Pulev is mandated by the IBF and all the noises are that if not Klitschko he has to be next else he's stripped.
                      • Ortiz has already been making noises about taking the WBA to court if needs be to ensure he gets his shot, even if the WBA have stated they're likely to give AJ a voluntary. Potentially Haymon could get him to step aside for Wilder but it's unlikely he'll go for it.
                      • Joshua v Fury is a much, much bigger fight than Joshua v Wilder and does huge numbers in the UK. Of course this depends on Fury having a boxing license and not being 300 pounds.

                      On top of all that, it also looks like Parker wants nothing to do with Wilder and just wants to cash out against AJ so that's another potential fight to get in the way. Likelihood is whoever gets Bellew will get Joshua first out of Wilder and Parker.

                      I'd reckon Wilder v Joshua would happen sooner if it was for all the belts, but Parkers team don't appear to want to risk losing out on a major payday against Joshua to go for that. Only way that's going to change is if Haymon throws a lot of money towards Parker safe in the knowledge that he'll make even more against Joshua if it's for the undisputed heavyweight title. But that'll only happen if Haymon has complete faith that Wilder will blow Parker away.
                      Last edited by Deus; 05-14-2017, 11:14 AM.

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