One thing about Andre "CoWard"

[Robbie Barrett]

ggg was wbc mandatory. ward knew ggg would never sign to fight him and thats why he included the tune up. no one ever calls out ward for that bullsh-it. "ward was ready to fight" lol! not really. if he was ready to fight he offers to fight right now not in the same exact period as ggg is planning to have a huge fight. the first half of 2016...aka when ggg was plannign to fight for the wbc belt since he had been mandatory for a year and the wbc had already given cotto an optional. people trying to revise history since the figth that should have happened didn't but we only found out these events long after ward's "offer" and 50-50 lmao

500k changed Golovkins plans and he fought Wade instead.

[pretty ste]

everybody and their momma knows lil g never wanted that work from ward yall talk about people ducking lil g that proved to be a myth created by his cheerleaders

[Motorcity Cobra]

You're right. It was one tune up in 2016, according to Loeffler in the LA Times. But remember, the offer was made in July 2015. Was Andre not supposed to fight Rohan Murdoch, then that other white boy he ended up fighting (after NSAC rejected Murdoch) on the Cotto-Canelo card? Or did he already know he was going to be injured?

So Tom said Ward offered them one tune up. Tom responded back

“I told him [in 2015] that we had obligations for 2016 and once we did that, a fight with Ward would be realistic. - See more at: http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-promoter-we-never-rejected-168-andre-ward--111223#sthash.iOiQ3uyN.dpuf

So Tom was looking at 2017 which means GGG would need more tune ups, not Ward.

You're saying they offered Ward 164 and 50/50 but that also isn't true.


"Words have been spoken [back and forth]. Words have been said, but people have to remember that it takes a willing participant to negotiate for a fight. When they say we turned them down or asked him to come down to 164, well that's not true. That's not true. That's something that Dan Rafael wrote.. something about a 50-50 thing with the money and the weight and everything, and we never asked for 164. - See more at: http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-coach-we-never-asked-andre-ward-164-weight--106038#sthash.C92Sx0IR.dpuf

But Sanchez did admit Ward sent them an offer. But Sanchez contradicts what Loeffler said. Loeffler said 2016 was full for GGG and the fight would have to happen in 2017. Sanchez is saying Ward wanted GGG to sit on the shelf. They can't keep their lies straight

"And Andre claims that a proposal was sent to Tom. And that's true. It was sent, it was sent about 15 or 20 minutes after we agreed to the Lemieux fight. And it also said that it wasn't going to be a fight in 2016, it was going to be 2017 because he needed a couple of tune-up fights. It's impossible for us to keep a man who's 33-years-old, like Gennady, on the shelf waiting for Andre Ward to be ready - See more at: http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-coach-we-never-asked-andre-ward-164-weight--106038#sthash.C92Sx0IR.dpuf

The funny thing about this whole situation is when Ward was inactive in early 2015 Sanchez dared Ward to make an offer to fight GGG

“Three years ago, I said that nobody from 54 to 68 will go 12 rounds with Gennady, not even Andre Ward would go. Andre Ward’s got to call Tom Loeffler. His people got to call Tom Leoffler; make an offer. Andre Ward is supposedly the A-fighter. He should making an offer,” Sanchez said via Fighthype. Golovkin has a fight scheduled this month against Martin Murray (29-1-1, 12 KOs) on February 21st at the Salle des Étoiles, Monte Carlo,

Once he got active and made the offer it was rejected immediately. Were you following the sport in 2015?

[GGG Gloveking]

Are we forgetting Golovkin wasn't willing to do a catch weight for Brook and dragged him up to the full 160?

Are we forgetting "the smaller man" was trying to make fights at 168 but asked for 164 against Ward.

Are we forgetting that Golovkin promoted himself by saying he'd fight ANYONE from 154-168?

The 164 offer was a duck, clear as day, sad that you'd even try to bring it up as a genuine offer.

Brook? Golovkin signed to fight Eubank Jr.

Is Ward really on the same level as Chavez Jr or Froch? He should get the same deal?

I think 164 would have been great for the best at 160 vs the best at 168. Meet in the middle. What's wrong with that? Hunter even said afterwards that Ward could still make 168, and that he had unfinished business at 168.

How is 164 offer a "duck", when at that point, there was no offer from Ward to be ducking?

[Motorcity Cobra]

I didn't make this thread to revisit GGG duck of Ward. I this thread to give Ward credit for seeking out the best

[GGG Gloveking]

So Tom said Ward offered them one tune up. Tom responded back

“I told him [in 2015] that we had obligations for 2016 and once we did that, a fight with Ward would be realistic. - See more at: http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-promoter-we-never-rejected-168-andre-ward--111223#sthash.iOiQ3uyN.dpuf

So Tom was looking at 2017 which means GGG would need more tune ups, not Ward.

You're saying they offered Ward 164 and 50/50 but that also isn't true.


"Words have been spoken [back and forth]. Words have been said, but people have to remember that it takes a willing participant to negotiate for a fight. When they say we turned them down or asked him to come down to 164, well that's not true. That's not true. That's something that Dan Rafael wrote.. something about a 50-50 thing with the money and the weight and everything, and we never asked for 164. - See more at: http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-coach-we-never-asked-andre-ward-164-weight--106038#sthash.C92Sx0IR.dpuf

But Sanchez did admit Ward sent them an offer. But Sanchez contradicts what Loeffler said. Loeffler said 2016 was full for GGG and the fight would have to happen in 2017. Sanchez is saying Ward wanted GGG to sit on the shelf. They can't keep their lies straight

"And Andre claims that a proposal was sent to Tom. And that's true. It was sent, it was sent about 15 or 20 minutes after we agreed to the Lemieux fight. And it also said that it wasn't going to be a fight in 2016, it was going to be 2017 because he (Ward) needed a couple of tune-up fights. It's impossible for us to keep a man who's 33-years-old, like Gennady, on the shelf waiting for Andre Ward to be ready - See more at: http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins-coach-we-never-asked-andre-ward-164-weight--106038#sthash.C92Sx0IR.dpuf

The funny thing about this whole situation is when Ward was inactive in early 2015 Sanchez dared Ward to make an offer to fight GGG

“Three years ago, I said that nobody from 54 to 68 will go 12 rounds with Gennady, not even Andre Ward would go. Andre Ward’s got to call Tom Loeffler. His people got to call Tom Leoffler; make an offer. Andre Ward is supposedly the A-fighter. He should making an offer,” Sanchez said via Fighthype. Golovkin has a fight scheduled this month against Martin Murray (29-1-1, 12 KOs) on February 21st at the Salle des Étoiles, Monte Carlo,

Once he got active and made the offer it was rejected immediately. Were you following the sport in 2015?

The thought of unification is now seen as a 'tune up' by you? You do what obligation means right? (I know Detroit has a sh itty school system)

I also highlighted a point of relevance (that means it's important). Ward needed tune ups, not GGG.

That last quote from Sanchez is from Jan or Feb 2015. Now, look up Ward's (Virgil Hunters) response from March of the same year. Hint: Ward needs more tune ups before facing the best names.

[GGG Gloveking]

I didn't make this thread to revisit GGG duck of Ward. I this thread to give Ward credit for seeking out the best

I agree. I'm done reliving 2015. Have a good day

[Motorcity Cobra]

The thought of unification is now seen as a 'tune up' by you? You do what obligation means right? (I know Detroit has a sh itty school system)

I also highlighted a point of relevance (that means it's important). Ward needed tune ups, not GGG.

That last quote from Sanchez is from Jan or Feb 2015. Now, look up Ward's (Virgil Hunters) response from March of the same year. Hint: Ward needs more tune ups before facing the best names.

Ward offered one tune up according to Loeffler. Loeffler said 2016 is taken up the fight would have to happen in 2017. GGG went on to fight two tune ups, Wade & Brook, Ward went on to fight Kovalev's mandatory the IBF #1 contender Barrera, Brand tune up & Kovalev. Those are the facts that can't be disputed.

Stop talking to me because I've already made you admit your first two claims were false. Which were Loeffler sent Ward a contract first and Ward wanted 3 tune ups. Even Loeffler said that isn't true. Now you're moving the goalposts to something else and I'm not about to debate GGG ducking Ward all over again

[GGG Gloveking]

Ward offered one tune up according to Loeffler. Loeffler said 2016 is taken up the fight would have to happen in 2017. GGG went on to fight two tune ups, Wade & Brook, Ward went on to fight Kovalev's mandatory the IBF #1 contender Barrera, Brand tune up & Kovalev. Those are the facts that can't be disputed.

Stop talking to me because I've already made you admit your first two claims were false. Which were Loeffler sent Ward a contract first and Ward wanted 3 tune ups. Even Loeffler said that isn't true. Now you're moving the goalposts to something else and I'm not about to debate GGG ducking Ward all over again

3 tune ups? You have me mistaken with Tharoxox. I said 2. Ward was scheduled to fight Rohan Murdoch on the Cotto-Canelo card. Plus, as the articles have pointed out, Ward wanted a tune up in 2016. That makes 2 tune ups.

You're also arguing semantics with the word "contract", And putting words in my mouth. An offer was made, that you try to discredit as just being words in an interview, yet there were several articles written calling it an offer.

If you want me to stop talking to you, just don't quote me. I already said I was done with this nonsense and to have a good day.

[-Kev-]

The chances of Golovkin growing a ballsack and seeking Ward out at 175 are slim and none.

Can't green k.