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  • #41
    I'm just glad that GEE is finally stepping up and fighting Alvarez.
    (He a jr. Middleweight doe)

    His hand is hurt doe...

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Mike D View Post
      Your card will never be suspended my dude...you know Canelo is an A level dude and you sir are also a b-scene ATG

      Haha, likewise.

      I was attempting to binge watch the Eastbound and Down series the other day and I couldn't stop imagining the main character as Brian Sutherland .

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Aztekkas View Post
        Haha, likewise.

        I was attempting to binge watch the Eastbound and Down series the other day and I couldn't stop imagining the main character as Brian Sutherland .


        kenny and b-suth are both from the same town too (Shelby, NC) lol

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Aztekkas View Post
          According to many GGG fans the fight was a must before it got made. Now that it has been made, well... hmmm, they don't know where to go aside from in circles when discussing the situation.

          Some GGG fanatics claim their idol is over the hill now and accuse Alvarez of picking on an old man. However, not long ago they were claiming that Golovkin had taken little to no damage throughout his career and thus he could have an extremely long and legendary run due to his freshness and defensive wizardry.

          Before the fight was announced they proudly stated that Jacobs lost every way possible in their fight and that Golovkin's masterclass shined that night. Today they say that Golovkin began showing slippage in that fight, a display of decline so significant it gave Alvarez the courage to finally make the fight.

          Before the fight was made many claimed Alvarez would never fight GGG. "Oh no, GGG big drama show. Canyellow will duck like everyone else", they said. Once the contract got signed they began to claim that Alvarez didn't make the fight because he was genuinely interested, but because he was boxed in by GGG's amazing management and fans.

          When Alvarez sold "low" ppv's against lesser name opposition they claimed he was far from a star and laughed at them. When GGG didn't even manage to sell half of Saul's "low" numbers on ppv they reeled in UK ppv's, thus proving to the world that GGG was a global star.

          When Alvarez moved towards the ropes in his fights and got hit, he was exposed. When GGG got hit flush by smaller or lesser opposition with power punches it was because he allowed it to happen. GGG sacrificed his defense in order to create drama and excite the fans.

          When GGG sold low ppv's it was a disgusting realization to many that the sport was dead. When Alvarez is rumored to have sold 1 million or so PPV's against Chavez it's the worst possible thing that could have happened. Now the sport is definitely dead because the casuals will definitely turn away. High PPV numbers = death of the sport.

          For many Alvarez will get destroyed, brutalized, massacred, bludgeoned, etc... by Golovkin. No way around it. The ginger has his coming and boy oh boy, it will be bad.

          But, what significance would a win for Golovkin hold? I mean... Alvarez killed boxing by turning the causal fans away after this past Saturday, so the transfer of power would be incomplete or lacklustr. Alvarez waited for GGG to get old, so even if he wins Golovkin wouldn't have long left in the sport due to his age. Alvarez has been exposed by Trout, Lara, Cotto, Khan and Smith before, so a win over him holds little to no weight. Especially since Golovkin is light years ahead of the fraud, skillwise and in talent.

          So what does Golovkin gain from beating another bum? Alvarez is a cowardly, sport killing, fraudulent bum whom waited for the sport's most feared man to become a grandpa over night before taking him on. So again, what will Golovkin earn from this guaranteed victory?

          I dont get into being a fan of anyone. I love boxing period. Thats the problem on here.

          That said. To be fair. Jacobs exposed how a man of equal talents & size deals with the talent of GGG. What he exposed as well, thats going to be a factor in canelos fight too is youth.
          The only mystery in this new fight coming up is how Canelo deals with a heavy punch, which if it does dramatically effect him will only make him box more and we all have seen that GGG has problems with good boxers. If Canelo chooses to brawl for some reason. Hes playing GGG's game and thats the only way G can win.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Aztekkas View Post
            Thus the usage of the word "some". I understand that not all GGG fans feel this way, but those aren't the ones whom are the most heard.
            all fan base are like this. why do you act like fans from the other side gives props to the opposite team prior to a fight? fans always talk shiiet about how the other guy is gonna lose, not that good, etc. etc. etc.!

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            • #46
              Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
              all fan base are like this. why do you act like fans from the other side gives props to the opposite team prior to a fight? fans always talk shiiet about how the other guy is gonna lose, not that good, etc. etc. etc.!
              No, all fans are not like this. Its primarily the very worst Manny/GGG fans .

              Go back and check when Manny fought Tim the 2nd time. Prior to the fight being signed they were pissed Manny got robbed (which is understandable) so they said Tim was a bum that didn't deserve his #3 p4p ranking. Soonn as the fight got signed, they started talking tim up again.

              Check how bigdramshow and others talked about Jacobs before the fight was signed as well. I think a couple of posters have sigged how he changed his tune.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Aztekkas View Post
                It's in the "Novella", whatever the fck that is.
                he meant Novela, like general Hospital.

                Anyway, Canelo us doomed and will loose badly.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                  all fan base are like this. why do you act like fans from the other side gives props to the opposite team prior to a fight? fans always talk shiiet about how the other guy is gonna lose, not that good, etc. etc. etc.!
                  No the Golovkin fans hyped up all his other opponents. Now they've flipped because they see Canelo as real threat to their hero.

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                  • #49
                    I'm not a huge Canelo fan but he isn't a bum at all. What the hell are you talking about?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Aztekkas View Post
                      It wouldn't be accurate because the people I would intend to use as a sample size wouldn't be properly represented by the entirety of the site. The original post states "some GGG fanatics" think a certain way, not all of his fans. In a poll anyone would be able to vote, not just the sub sect of the fanbase I directed this thread at.

                      Have you still not realized that this forum is full of trolls and even regular posters tend to totally exaggerate or put out ridiculous stuff from time to time? Maybe 10% of the posts here in recent years can even be taken seriously. It's more comedy, drama, entertainment and trolling around.

                      Canelo has been criticized for dropping his belt and avoiding GGG, he created catchweights for his opponents and fought a lot of high profile names, but context obviously matters, just that the average fan is not able to differentiate. They know Khan, Kirkland, Lara, Mosley, Cotto and so obviously say, hey great resume. And when you really look into it, its a couple good wins, but Mosley at age 40, Khan moving up 2 weightclasses, Kirkland shot, Lara he arguably lost, its not an All Time Great resume. Canelo is a good fighter, he might even be a top 10 P4P fighter right now since he improved quite a bit in the last couple years so the matchup vs GGG is a fantastic matchup, as the oddsmakers and casinos show, it is almost a 50/50 fight, pretty sure when we are close to the actual fight it will be 50/50.

                      You could also ask, why does a win over GGG matter, if he is just a basic fighter with no special effects and with a terrible resume, according to Canelo fanatics or GGG haters in this forum.

                      There's always 2 sides of the story and taking NSB trolls or some crazy fanatics as a benchmark is surely the wrong approach.
                      Last edited by Jubei; 05-10-2017, 11:30 AM.

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