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  • #61
    Originally posted by NYG View Post
    Good first sentence. Too many emotional fanboys here and it ruins the experience.

    Anyway, i agree with your post but i also think GGG is a bit of an underrated boxer when it comes to the technical part. I think he can win in a few different ways but i think he figures that out as the fight goes on, he adjusts and that's what good fighters should do. I don't think Brook made him look bad, i think he wanted to get Brook out of there ASAP and he knew Brook had no power so he said **** it.

    Jacobs was a different story but even with him, GGG figured it out. Jacobs was bigger and more athletic but GGG found a way to win. A bit of an ugly fight but 7-5 or 8-4 for GGG is correct. I don't really care what people say about him not being able to KO Jacobs or whatever because you can't KO everybody and Jacobs has turned into a good fighter.

    In my opinion, this fight will be very technical and i don't expect it to be an all out war, too much to lose for both guys. I just hope the decision is right for whoever wins
    You could be totally right. I just want to see a fight that's worth my money. I love boxing but maybe buy a PPV once every year and a half.
    I like UFC a distant second and buy 3 a year.
    Boxing needs to step it up with great undercards and quit being so damn greedy. It's getting old

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    • #62
      Another thread that is based on a generalization people pull out of their ass.

      Nobody is calling Canelo a bum. He was called a coward who vacated his belt in order for his main rival to get older, which is still true.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        WTF? I answered your question by pointing out how easy the fight was. How is that talking **** about a fighter?

        No, that was the Manny fans who were mad Chino was getting the fight. Most floyd fans said nothing about Maidana before the fight other than Floyd should dominate him once he won the poll.
        Easy money was said before the fight actually happen smart guy. Before floyd fought pac, pac was easy money, one dimensional, doesn't know how to adjust. This is talking Shiiet about the opponent like what this thread is about.

        And before floyd fought pac, Floyd fans said it would be easy since Manny is not good, and then after Floyd fought Manny, pac is one of floyds best win now? LMAO!!!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
          Easy money was said before the fight actually happen smart guy. Before floyd fought pac, pac was easy money, one dimensional, doesn't know how to adjust. This is talking Shiiet about the opponent like what this thread is about.

          And before floyd fought pac, Floyd fans said it would be easy since Manny is not good, and then after Floyd fought Manny, pac is one of floyds best win now? LMAO!!!
          In that case he proved everything he said so again I am not sure what your point is. You need to find a better fight to make your point because no matter how you cut it, Manny was one of the easiest fights Floyd had.

          It was easy. Manny is inferior to Floyd. That said, Manny was still seen as the 2nd or 3rd best p4p boxer in the world when Floyd beat him. If you want to say it isn't a good win thats ok. Alot of Manny fans are doing same because of how one sided the fight was.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            In that case he proved everything he said so again I am not sure what your point is. You need to find a better fight to make your point because no matter how you cut it, Manny was one of the easiest fights Floyd had.

            It was easy. Manny is inferior to Floyd. That said, Manny was still seen as the 2nd or 3rd best p4p boxer in the world when Floyd beat him. If you want to say it isn't a good win thats ok. Alot of Manny fans are doing same because of how one sided the fight was.
            read the first post you quoted me.

            i said "all fan base talk shiiet"

            easy money was said BEFORE they fought, so that's talking shiiet, what are you not getting?

            pac was suppose to be no skills, cant adjust, but after floyd fought him, all of a sudden he became one of floyd's best win.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
              all fan base are like this. why do you act like fans from the other side gives props to the opposite team prior to a fight? fans always talk shiiet about how the other guy is gonna lose, not that good, etc. etc. etc.!


              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              No, all fans are not like this. Its primarily the very worst Manny/GGG fans .

              Go back and check when Manny fought Tim the 2nd time. Prior to the fight being signed they were pissed Manny got robbed (which is understandable) so they said Tim was a bum that didn't deserve his #3 p4p ranking. Soonn as the fight got signed, they started talking tim up again.

              Check how bigdramshow and others talked about Jacobs before the fight was signed as well. I think a couple of posters have sigged how he changed his tune.
              calling manny "easy money" "no skills", "cant adjust", etc. before they fought, that's talking shiiet about the opponent.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                read the first post you quoted me.

                i said "all fan base talk shiiet"

                easy money was said BEFORE they fought, so that's talking shiiet, what are you not getting?

                pac was suppose to be no skills, cant adjust, but after floyd fought him, all of a sudden he became one of floyd's best win.
                The thread isn't about generic shit talking. it's essentially about fans that denigrate a guy before a fight is signed, then flip once the fight is signed or if their guy wins.

                GGG fans that called Canelo a bum are now switching since the fight was signed. Manny fans have done that in the situations I point out.

                You responded that floyd fans did this to Manny. My response is this is a bad example because everything Floyd and/or his fans posted prior to the fight about it being easy were true.

                He was one of Floyd's best wins given his stature at the time of the fight. Most had him as a top 3 p4p boxer. The very worst Manny fans had him as #1. Once he got beaten so easily, you guys have done everything you can to downplay the win.

                You and those like you are exactly who this thread is criticizing.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  The thread isn't about generic shit talking. it's essentially about fans that denigrate a guy before a fight is signed, then flip once the fight is signed or if their guy wins.

                  GGG fans that called Canelo a bum are now switching since the fight was signed. Manny fans have done that in the situations I point out.

                  You responded that floyd fans did this to Manny. My response is this is a bad example because everything Floyd and/or his fans posted prior to the fight about it being easy were true.

                  He was one of Floyd's best wins given his stature at the time of the fight. Most had him as a top 3 p4p boxer. The very worst Manny fans had him as #1. Once he got beaten so easily, you guys have done everything you can to downplay the win.
                  and that's exactly what the floyds fans did to manny!! pac was a no skill, come forward brawler, easy money for floyd. after the fight, pac is one of floyd's best win now.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                    and that's exactly what the floyds fans did to manny!! pac was a no skill, come forward brawler, easy money for floyd. after the fight, pac is one of floyd's best win now.
                    Manny is still all of those things relative to Floyd. Just because it was an easy fight doesn't mean it wasn't one of his best wins. Floyd's great skill and movement is what allowed him to win the fight so easily.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      Manny is still all of those things relative to Floyd. Just because it was an easy fight doesn't mean it wasn't one of his best wins. Floyd's great skill and movement is what allowed him to win the fight so easily.
                      why was manny an easy fight? because he cant adjust, only fight one way, come foward, no defense, etc.

                      how is this guy one of floyd's best win? lol

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