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  • Lomadeaux
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    Revenue - Boxing Vs UFC

    Did a quick study on the Top Live Gates and PPV Buys over the past 7 years.

    This was very interesting result so I thought I'd share it with everyone. I chose 2010 because UFC "is growing and growing" since then, and boxing is "dying". So I took the highest live gates from each sport.

    **In all cases I removed Mayweather-Pacquiao numbers because that would not be fair.**

    Live Gate Revenue average from 2010 - Today
    • UFC: 5,070,218
    • Boxing: 9,826,605


    PPV Buys Average from 2010 - Today
    • UFC: 886,428
    • Boxing: 1,146,428


    Now - PPV buys is difficult because UFC is a private company and isn't required to release their numbers. Revenue is difficult as well because of this. I took the highest fight for each sport each year. Also keep in mind a Boxing PPV is more expensive than an MMA PPV.

    **For 2015 I tallied zero for boxing and used that in the average

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    Originally posted by Lomadeaux
    Did a quick study on the Top Live Gates and PPV Buys over the past 7 years.

    This was very interesting result so I thought I'd share it with everyone. I chose 2010 because UFC "is growing and growing" since then, and boxing is "dying". So I took the highest live gates from each sport.

    **In all cases I removed Mayweather-Pacquiao numbers because that would not be fair.**

    Live Gate Revenue average from 2010 - Today
    • UFC: 5,070,218
    • Boxing: 9,826,605


    PPV Buys Average from 2010 - Today
    • UFC: 886,428
    • Boxing: 1,146,428


    Now - PPV buys is difficult because UFC is a private company and isn't required to release their numbers. Revenue is difficult as well because of this. I took the highest fight for each sport each year. Also keep in mind a Boxing PPV is more expensive than an MMA PPV.

    **For 2015 I tallied zero for boxing and used that in the average

    Thoughts?
    UFC has good and bad years, just like boxing. Aside from 1-offs like Floyd and Conor, would be nice to see how the #'s play out. I think boxing thinks (correctly) that the UFC is weak right now with Ronda gone and Conor on hiatus and can really start making a play for the casuals..

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    • Johnny2x2x
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      #3
      UFC keeps their numbers largely secret so they can pay their fighters pennies on the dollar.

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      • asgarth
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        #4
        if you dont mind the extra work, you should put the trend also in your statistic. And you should add Mayweather Pacquiao numbers, just use median instead of average. So that really big numbers or really low numbers dont affect the numbers too much.
        Last edited by asgarth; 05-08-2017, 03:19 PM. Reason: hello

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          #5
          Originally posted by Lomadeaux
          PPV Buys Average from 2010 - Today
          • UFC: 886,428
          • Boxing: 1,146,428
          I call bs.

          Source of the boxing PPV's numbers you used. There is absolutely no way the "average" boxing PPV did 1.1M. There's only 21 boxing PPV's in the 3 decade history of PPV that have done that many or more buys & there are a few hundred boxing PPV's that have taken place in that period of time.

          I'd even say the UFC 886k number is high since there are only like a dozen-ish UFC PPV's that have done 886K+ PPV's in the last 6 years & they've had a PPV every month for that entire period so that's like 72 PPV's total with only 12 doing that number or better & with their high number being 1.6M. I don't think its even mathematical possible to get a average that high based on the stuff I'm bringing up.

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          • Lomadeaux
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            #6
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            I call bs.

            Source of the boxing PPV's numbers you used. There is absolutely no way the "average" boxing PPV did 1.1M. There's only 21 boxing PPV's in the 3 decade history of PPV that have done that many or more buys & there are a few hundred boxing PPV's that have taken place in that period of time.

            I'd even say the UFC 886k number is high since there are only like a dozen-ish UFC PPV's that have done 886K+ PPV's in the last 6 years & they've had a PPV every month for that entire period so that's like 72 PPV's total with only 12 doing that number or better & with their high number being 1.6M. I don't think its even mathematical possible to get a average that high based on the stuff I'm bringing up.
            I took the highest "buys" for each year. Whatever fight sold the most buys and put it against the other. I'll list them soon.

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              #7
              Lol so boxing has averaged 1.1m in PPV but they can't even average that on premium cable? Are you kidding?

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              • Lomadeaux
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                2010
                Mayweather - Mosley
                1.4M

                Lesnar - Carwin
                1.16

                2011
                Pacquiao-Marquez III
                1.4M

                St. Pierre - Shields
                800K

                2012
                Mayweather - Cotto
                1.5M

                Silvia - Sonnen II
                925K

                2013
                Mayweather - Alvarez
                2.2M

                Weidman - Silvia II
                1.025

                2014
                Mayweather - Maidana II
                925K

                Weidman - Machida
                545K

                2015
                Boxing: 0

                Aldo - McGregor
                1.2M

                2016
                Alvarez - Khan
                600K

                McGregor - Diaz II
                1.65M


                Yes, I should include all numbers and use the median (if I knew how to do that). I'll figure it out and add that in a more advanced study soon.

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                • asgarth
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Lomadeaux
                  I took the highest "buys" for each year. Whatever fight sold the most buys and put it against the other. I'll list them soon.
                  Dude you should complete statistics 101 first

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lomadeaux
                    2010
                    Mayweather - Mosley
                    1.4M

                    Lesnar - Carwin
                    1.16

                    2011
                    Pacquiao-Marquez III
                    1.4M

                    St. Pierre - Shields
                    800K

                    2012
                    Mayweather - Cotto
                    1.5M

                    Silvia - Sonnen II
                    925K

                    2013
                    Mayweather - Alvarez
                    2.2M

                    Weidman - Silvia II
                    1.025

                    2014
                    Mayweather - Maidana II
                    925K

                    Weidman - Machida
                    545K

                    2015
                    Boxing: 0

                    Aldo - McGregor
                    1.2M

                    2016
                    Alvarez - Khan
                    600K

                    McGregor - Diaz II
                    1.65M


                    Yes, I should include all numbers and use the median (if I knew how to do that). I'll figure it out and add that in a more advanced study soon.
                    You could include 900k canelo cotto and the huge PAC Floyd for 2015 butthats the year UFC started getting more popular in the mainstream.

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