Revenue - Boxing Vs UFC

[Lomadeaux]

Dude you should complete statistics 101 first

Lol... I'm making a very simple point. And it's, people buy and pay more for boxing than UFC.

Is what it is.

[Lomadeaux]

You could include 900k canelo cotto and the huge PAC Floyd for 2015 butthats the year UFC started getting more popular in the mainstream.

UFC has been "dominating a dying boxing" for 10 years now based on every casual you see.

[Last Roman]

I feel like the popularity of MMA is reaching critical mass.
It probably cant get any bigger than it already is(in the Western world at least).

[Eff Pandas]

Here's some numbers that go along with your Boxing is "dying" & the UFC is growing angle.

1M+ PPV buy boxing vs MMA numbers since 2010

The UFC has had (11) 1M+ PPV's, 7 of them in the last 3 years. Boxing has had (10) 1M+ PPV's, 1 of them in the last 3 years. The trend is clearly going MMA's way.

MMA
(2010) UFC 114 Evans vs Jackson 1.05M
(2010) UFC 116 Lesnar vs Carwin 1.16M
(2010) UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez 1.05M
(2013) UFC 168 Weidman vs Silva 1.02M
(2015) UFC 193 Rousey vs Holm 1.10M
(2015) UFC 194 McGregor vs Aldo 1.02M
(2016) UFC 196 McGregor vs Diaz 1.31M
(2016) UFC 200 Tate vs Nunes 1.00M
(2016) UFC 202 McGregor vs Diaz 1.65M
(2016) UFC 205 McGregor vs Alvarez 1.30M
(2016) UFC 207 Nunes vs Rousey 1.10M

Boxing
(2010) Mayweather vs Mosley 1.40M
(2010) Pacquiao vs Margarito 1.15M
(2011) Pacquiao vs Mosley 1.20M
(2011) Mayweather vs Ortiz 1.25M
(2011) Pacquiao vs Marquez 1.25M
(2012) Mayweather vs Cotto 1.50M
(2012) Pacquiao vs Marquez 1.15M
(2013) Mayweather vs Guerrero 1.00M
(2013) Mayweather vs Alvarez 2.20M
(2015) Mayweather vs Pacquiao 4.40M

Also take into account the times the guys headlining have done so in "big fights" surpassing 1M buys in that period of time:

McGregor (4)
Lesnar + Diaz + Rousey + Nunes (2)
10 people tied (1)

Mayweather (6)
Pacquiao (5)
Mosley + Marquez (2)
5 guys tied (1)

Boxing is much more top heavy & all 4 of the biggest draws are in their 40's except for Manny who's 38(?).

Meanwhile 3 of the top 5 MMA draws are still in their 20's & the pyramid isn't as high so random guys can headline out of the blue with 10 of the 22 spots in those eleven fights being guys that only headlined the 1 fight that surpassed 1M+ buys suggesting name building is a characteristic needed in boxing much more than in the UFC.

[Lomadeaux]

Here's some numbers that go along with your Boxing is "dying" & the UFC is growing angle.

1M+ PPV buy boxing vs MMA numbers since 2010

The UFC has had (11) 1M+ PPV's, 7 of them in the last 3 years. Boxing has had (10) 1M+ PPV's, 1 of them in the last 3 years. The trend is clearly going MMA's way.

MMA
(2010) UFC 114 Evans vs Jackson 1.05M
(2010) UFC 116 Lesnar vs Carwin 1.16M
(2010) UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez 1.05M
(2013) UFC 168 Weidman vs Silva 1.02M
(2015) UFC 193 Rousey vs Holm 1.10M
(2015) UFC 194 McGregor vs Aldo 1.02M
(2016) UFC 196 McGregor vs Diaz 1.31M
(2016) UFC 200 Tate vs Nunes 1.00M
(2016) UFC 202 McGregor vs Diaz 1.65M
(2016) UFC 205 McGregor vs Alvarez 1.30M
(2016) UFC 207 Nunes vs Rousey 1.10M

Boxing
(2010) Mayweather vs Mosley 1.40M
(2010) Pacquiao vs Margarito 1.15M
(2011) Pacquiao vs Mosley 1.20M
(2011) Mayweather vs Ortiz 1.25M
(2011) Pacquiao vs Marquez 1.25M
(2012) Mayweather vs Cotto 1.50M
(2012) Pacquiao vs Marquez 1.15M
(2013) Mayweather vs Guerrero 1.00M
(2013) Mayweather vs Alvarez 2.20M
(2015) Mayweather vs Pacquiao 4.40M

Also take into account the times the guys headlining have done so in "big fights" surpassing 1M buys in that period of time:

McGregor (4)
Lesnar + Diaz + Rousey + Nunes (2)
10 people tied (1)

Mayweather (6)
Pacquiao (5)
Mosley + Marquez (2)
5 guys tied (1)

Boxing is much more top heavy & all 4 of the biggest draws are in their 40's except for Manny who's 38(?).

Meanwhile 3 of the top 5 MMA draws are still in their 20's & the pyramid isn't as high so random guys can headline out of the blue with 10 of the 22 spots in those eleven fights being guys that only headlined the 1 fight that surpassed 1M+ buys suggesting name building is a characteristic needed in boxing much more than in the UFC.

Total buys and revenue will never compare.

[Lomadeaux]

Also when it comes to "draws" in UFC, they don't nearly last as long. Most of them lose and/or retire within a few years. The top fighters in boxing the past 7 years typically have made more money in a single night. than the careers of multiple UFC fighters a few times over.

It's simply meritocracy, which is why I did the simple study.

[Money Shot]

I enjoy some of the ufc but it's still junk food compared to the cuisine top level boxing offers.

[Lomadeaux]

I enjoy some of the ufc but it's still junk food compared to the cuisine top level boxing offers.

I agree with that.

[Eff Pandas]

Total buys and revenue will never compare.

From 2006-2015 the UFC sold 62M PPV's to boxing's 42M PPV's.

I haven't done numbers in a year, but I'd assume boxing is worse off in the 2007-2016 10 year period cuz MMA had a break thru year & boxing had a horrible year.

Revenue is a legit thing I'm curious about, but its impossible to get much data on revenue. I mean its hard enough to get rumored buy numbers. I'd love to know the revenue details doe.

Hey man I love boxing more than MMA myself, but numbers don't lie. MMA is catching more fire with combat sports fans than boxing is these days.

[Eff Pandas]

Also when it comes to "draws" in UFC, they don't nearly last as long. Most of them lose and/or retire within a few years.

Well that's they thing. The UFC doesn't need them to last. Its a f#cking meat grinder, rightly or wrongly. Guys are always moving up & down. Its like most sports in that ways. Boxers wouldn't be lasting as long as other athletes either if they were put thru the meat grinder like UFC guys are, like NFL guys are, like NBA guys are. There is a level of competiveness in those sports that makes sure you always need to keep your spot that someone is always trying to take from you.

If boxing worked like most other sports Floyd woulda had fights with Margarito, Thurman, a couple with Pacquiao instead of just one, a couple with Marquez instead of just one & Tszyu & probably a bunch of other fights that couldn't be made cuz of politics & all sorts of other bs. Floyd is the mfing man, but Floyd isn't undefeated if he'd had to fought a murderers row of top completion like everyone has to do in most every other sport. And Pacquiao would probably have about 10, 12 loses by now before someone calls me a Floyd hater or something ******.