Revenue - Boxing Vs UFC

[Lomadeaux]

From 2006-2015 the UFC sold 62M PPV's to boxing's 42M PPV's.

I haven't done numbers in a year, but I'd assume boxing is worse off in the 2007-2016 10 year period cuz MMA had a break thru year & boxing had a horrible year.

Revenue is a legit thing I'm curious about, but its impossible to get much data on revenue. I mean its hard enough to get rumored buy numbers. I'd love to know the revenue details doe.

Hey man I love boxing more than MMA myself, but numbers don't lie. MMA is catching more fire with combat sports fans than boxing is these days.

62 to 42? Are you excluding Mayweather? Lol

[sicko]

2010
Mayweather - Mosley
1.4M

Lesnar - Carwin
1.16

2011
Pacquiao-Marquez III
1.4M

St. Pierre - Shields
800K

2012
Mayweather - Cotto
1.5M

Silvia - Sonnen II
925K

2013
Mayweather - Alvarez
2.2M

Weidman - Silvia II
1.025

2014
Mayweather - Maidana II
925K

Weidman - Machida
545K

2015
Boxing: 0

Aldo - McGregor
1.2M

2016
Alvarez - Khan
600K

McGregor - Diaz II
1.65M


Yes, I should include all numbers and use the median (if I knew how to do that). I'll figure it out and add that in a more advanced study soon.

So MAYWEATHER was a Bigger Draw than the UFC Not Necessarily "Boxing" In General

[Eff Pandas]

62 to 42? Are you excluding Mayweather? Lol

Nope.

And that's the top heavy part of boxing I bring up. Mayweather is 19.2M of those 42M buys. And the really f#cked up thing is Manny is another 16.8M. So considering the 4.4M they share that means all other boxers in non-Floyd or Manny fights got 11M-ish buys in that 10 year period (2006-2015).

"Boxing's success" is really Floyd's & Manny's success in this most recent period of time.

[Eff Pandas]

So MAYWEATHER was a Bigger Draw than the UFC Not Necessarily "Boxing" In General

LOL aw damn beat me to the line I basically just said.

But yea "Boxing" didn't do as good as Floyd & I'd say Manny did in the previous several years.

[Lomadeaux]

LOL aw damn beat me to the line I basically just said.

But yea "Boxing" didn't do as good as Floyd & I'd say Manny did in the previous several years.

Lol. You can skew them however you want. Numbers are numbers. Year after year, the top boxing PPV outperforms the top UFC PPV. Even with Boxing being more expensive. Floyd and Manny will be replaced just like every other big time boxer was before them.

I pulled since 2010, you keep fanagling them until it was in UFCs favor (which some were 29 bucks). Let's just to the top Gates and PPVs they've ever had.

[Lomadeaux]

GGG-Canelo will sell an absolute ridiculous amount of buys, even more incredible amount of revenue and people will still say, "MMA is more popular". Even though it will sell more and make more than UFC could ever dream of.

[DinoCop]

What you put out was simple and clean Loma, ignore those fart heards who try to find a fault at everything. What you morons expect? him calling promoters and asking for official documents of each fight after all the expenses are caltulated?
Apart from that, I think UFC had been a short lived fashion, for a short period of time ppl enjoyed it and caught in the hype. I used to follow it back than, Strikeforce guys like Nick Diaz. It had a golden age filled with all these almost shot stars: Nick Diaz, Lyoto MAchida, WAnderlei Silva, Anderson Silva, Rousey, Chris Cyborg, male Cyborg, Cung Le, Frank Shamrock. Now all of them are gone and no other star will emerge (:
Only one I know is Connor right now. Mexicans have boxing, Brazilians adopted UFC. All Brazilian stars are long gone.

[Eff Pandas]

Lol. You can skew them however you want. Numbers are numbers. Year after year, the top boxing PPV outperforms the top UFC PPV. Even with Boxing being more expensive. Floyd and Manny will be replaced just like every other big time boxer was before them.

I'm just looking at data & gauging a trend. You are trying to use selective data to get the answer you want.

Like I said I love boxing more than any other sport, but the info says what it says.

I pulled since 2010, you keep fanagling them until it was in UFCs favor (which some were 29 bucks). Let's just to the top Gates and PPVs they've ever had.

Idk that UFC had $29 PPV's any time recently. I believe they are $50-$60/HD now & for some of the period in discussion they were $45-$55/HD.

So yea that's less then the typical boxing PPV, but its not THAT much less & lets not ignore that the overall PPV strategy isn't entirely different.

Every boxing PPV is a one off product basically that doesn't really have a narrative from event to event outside of the A side guy's story (Floyd, Manny, Canelo, ODLH, etc) & there are many different players that could be involved in any particular PPV. The UFC is putting on a consistent monthly product that has a ongoing narrative from event to event. Boxing is like a movie & the UFC is like a TV show basically for an analogy. So when you got 4 PPV's a year vs 12 PPV's a year it stands to reason the scarcity or lack of scarcity plays into price setting for the product + the number of buys with interesting parties it stands to reasons.

[MrRolltide91]

Well that's they thing. The UFC doesn't need them to last. Its a f#cking meat grinder, rightly or wrongly. Guys are always moving up & down. Its like most sports in that ways. Boxers wouldn't be lasting as long as other athletes either if they were put thru the meat grinder like UFC guys are, like NFL guys are, like NBA guys are. There is a level of competiveness in those sports that makes sure you always need to keep your spot that someone is always trying to take from you.

If boxing worked like most other sports Floyd woulda had fights with Margarito, Thurman, a couple with Pacquiao instead of just one, a couple with Marquez instead of just one & Tszyu & probably a bunch of other fights that couldn't be made cuz of politics & all sorts of other bs. Floyd is the mfing man, but Floyd isn't undefeated if he'd had to fought a murderers row of top completion like everyone has to do in most every other sport. And Pacquiao would probably have about 10, 12 loses by now before someone calls me a Floyd hater or something ******.

Lol yeah ask the cavs and warriors that.

They haven't face anybody yet in the playoffs.

People saying they ruining the NBA.

[Eff Pandas]

Lol yeah ask the cavs and warriors that.

They haven't face anybody yet in the playoffs.

People saying they ruining the NBA.

I don't even watch any sport besides combat sports so idk sh^t about any particular team, but what I meant was the actual players are at risk of losing their place in the NBA, spot on a team or starting spot if they performance drops any degree once they get to the NBA.

Most sports are overflowing with constant competition like that that you have to re-earn every single year again & again. In the UFC when you win a belt you are thrown into top guy after top guy after top guy. Granted they have been slacking a bit lately & getting accused of "turning into boxing", but that's not the typical move or historically how things have worked.

In boxing usually all the best guys in your division have a title to & rarely do title holders fight title holders. Usually guys fight a mandatory guy who's kinda a bs fight as much if not more than he's a legit threat for you. Or you can pick any random ranked guy to fight. Guys tend to maximize their time as title holders by fighting lesser competition since they are given a choice. In most sports you have no choice who you compete against. That's a problem for the entertainment value of boxing for fans.