Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Making Canelo-Golovkin Was Easy; Only Took Two Weeks

[mrlopez]

GGG/Canelo being announced was. The saving grace to that horrible fight

[Scipio2009]

I wonder if they will announce the specifics of the deal at some point.
Did BBB side get his percentage he was seeking or was it a flat fee.
I think it was a nice guarantee plus upside as long as the fight hits certain numbers.

You can definitely bet that it's nowhere near the initial 8-figure offer.

$2m-$3m as the guarantee, the Germany rights to the fight, and $5 for every PPV buy beyond 750k PPVs (with the Mexico money and the rest of the international TV money satying with Alvarez) is my guess, but who knows

[turnedup]

Well this certainly should force a ton of people on here to stfu about A-side and B-side and how one was using the others name. This website is going to be a lot lighter come September 17th 2017 someone has to win and someone has to lose. Someone should create an account bet thread to get shh going. Save us the time of the username changes come the 17th.

[turnedup]

You can definitely bet that it's nowhere near the initial 8-figure offer.

$2m-$3m as the guarantee, the Germany rights to the fight, and $5 for every PPV buy beyond 750k PPVs (with the Mexico money and the rest of the international TV money satying with Alvarez) is my guess, but who knows

That is pretty specific for a "guess" bro.

[NEETzsche]

That is pretty specific for a "guess" bro.

Scipio is the undisputed NSB king of pulling figures out of his arse lol

[Scipio2009]

The definition of a ppv bomb is one that loses money. That word really only applies to Andre ward and rocnation, you know the fighter that loses his promotional company millions each fight.

... the Kovalev-Ward PPV was led by Main Events. No idea how you got around to spinning that and putting it on Ward, lol.

Outside of the Paul Smith fight (RocNation getting no TV money, and having to shell out for the BET TV time), RocNation has likely done just fine on Ward's fights.

How can Roc Nation be losing millions on each fight, when Andre Ward is maybe seeing $2m-$3m per fight?

[aboutfkntime]

not quite sure what you're talking about but here's my view on the fighters you mentioned in terms of their connection to ggg
Cotto - probably wouldn't have ever faced ggg. Too small and made more money facing Canelo.
Martinez - with the injuries, he wasn't going to risk coming back to take on ggg. Fighting cotto was a safer fight and better financially.
Ward- would've beaten ggg and gggs team probably didn't want to take that risk.
Froch- chose to retire rather than face ggg.
Lara- has been calling out ggg and gggs team probably ignored it because nobody looks good vs Lara.. Ever.
The problem with Canelo is nobody else mentioned has called out ggg to enter the ring after one of their fights and then give up their belt 2 weeks later to decline making a mandatory defense. The perception of doing that makes it way worse to boxing fans and facing significant underdogs in khan, beefy and Chavez jr instead of ggg didn't help that perception.

not talking about who would win, etc

just saying that Golovkin fans bashed those fighters mercilessly for YEARS, calling them cowards, etc..... much worse than Golovkin got bashed

[OnePunch]

... the Kovalev-Ward PPV was led by Main Events. No idea how you got around to spinning that and putting it on Ward, lol.

Outside of the Paul Smith fight (RocNation getting no TV money, and having to shell out for the BET TV time), RocNation has likely done just fine on Ward's fights.

How can Roc Nation be losing millions on each fight, when Andre Ward is maybe seeing $2m-$3m per fight?

thats easy, main events guaranteed their fighter a purse in line with what the event was projected to generate. You know, like every other promoter in the world besides Roc and Haymon.

there was a revenue split beteen Main Events and Roc Nation, and each side was responsible for paying their own guy. Main Events didnt lose money. Roc did. THATS why its put on Ward......

[Scipio2009]

That is pretty specific for a "guess" bro.

There are multiple revenue streams on a fight, and there's no way that Alvarez/GBP is going to cut Golovkin in on everything.

$3m is his share on the fight, K2 gets to shop the fight for the best deal in Golovkin's most lucrative home market, and Golovkin gets the back-end upside that his camp thirsted after (relatively simple math puts Golovkin's share at ~15% of the upside).

nothing wrong with an educated guess

[Chrismart]

Everyone always says Tom Loeffler is incredibly easy to deal with

Yeah that seems to be true :ANYWORD:
I remember a poster (can't quite recall who it was) who always used to push the agenda, and make threads about Loeffler and K2 being difficult to deal with. However, I've never heard anything like that being said from any rival promoters.