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  • #61
    I think most people forget that boxing is a "sport". With sports WINNING is the most important thing. If you have a 1 round exciting fight and one person lands a lucky shot, is the person that landed a lucky punch the BETTER BOXER? Or is it the guys who actually wins by showing better boxing skills....If floyd and manny ended with a one-shot ko, you would've swore manny was the better boxer, but because of what we actually witnessed, WE KNOW Mayweather is the BETTER BOXER. Its a SPORT. It just has a lot of CRYBABY FANS that cant accept a loss, so they make up excuses (the judges were paid off, the commentators were biased, the ref was "on the take", the corner guy was wrong)Anything but accepting a decision) thats whats really hurting boxing, its fans, who swear its all rigged and fake and everything is corrupt. Boxing is not in slo-mo for you to judge, why arent you a professional boxing judge, since your skills are so incredible? when ALL the judges see one boxer as the winner..........guess who won The biggest fight ever was won by Floyd "Money" Mayweather by using skillful boxing, using the "sweet science".
    Last edited by HURTFEELINGS; 05-06-2017, 09:38 AM.

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    • #62
      PPV numbers weren't spectacular until Mayweather vs De La Hoya. You had some outliers with Tyson Holyfield etc, but the market was made by that fight. PPV isn't ruined its just going back to what it was before

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      • #63
        Mayweather and Pacquaio have brought more fans to boxing than all other active boxers combined. Their fight was not action packed or fan pleasing, but they both had incredible careers that saved boxing when it looked like it might be dying.

        Canelo is making more money now because of Mayweather and Manny. He should thank them.

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        • #64
          Pacquiao Vs Horn will bring back everyone doe

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          • #65
            I don't agree with that argument. Boxing, especially ppv, has been affected by many things, including the wide availability of online streams, the different promoters protecting their cash cows, many divisions and belts, and boxers who flatly refusing to fight each other. Mayweather / Pacquiao was an outlier, a one time extravaganza where two highly regarded superstar boxers collided. It wasn't about just one man, but the synergy the match up created. We will probably never see that happening again.

            One way of putting is that the fight didn't help boxing as it should, but not that it hurt boxing; the fighters who took part were on their way out the door. It is on this new generation of fighters and promoters to quit the pvssfooting and promote their brand by fighting the best of the best. Once money is put first, in a any product/service, the quality will suffer.

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            • #66
              I think a lot of the narrative around that fight was predetermined. UFC is a lot more popular with the mainstream media. A lot of people hated that Floyd could make all that money after his history. That was never going to be any love for that fight, that was assured

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              • #67
                Yeah the fight hurt boxing so badly, he saw his best ever HBO numbers the very next week. FOH.

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                • #68
                  I agree with cvntnelo. that **** tanked the ppv market.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Mike D View Post
                    The fight was an unmitigated disaster of biblical proportions

                    It was built up to be bigger than the f**king superbowl, I mean the whole world was watching...and for that??

                    I've heard Floyd fans say that people just thought it was boring because Floyd won and that all of the Floyd haters were butthurt, but no. A good fight is a good fight. And that was a f**king horrific "fight". It was basically light sparring for 12 rounds without a a single memorable or dramatic moment in the fight, unless you count the time Manny stunned Floyd and unleashed a barrage of mostly missed or blocked punches.

                    And yes, I get it, anybody who knows Floyd at all knew that he's a defensive fighter to the millionth degree, and it was never going to be a firefight, that much is true but still.

                    Both fighters exited the ring with career lows in punches landed. From just a pure entertainment perspective it was awful. It was beyond awful.

                    I will say this, though. I do think that the onus was on Manny. It was. We all know that Floyd is safety first, defense first at all times. Floyd could give two ****s about making it entertaining for the fans so long as he's winning the fight. So it was up to Manny to bring the fight out of him, and as we all saw, he couldn't do it. So yeah in the end the bulk of the blame goes to Manny.

                    But my God what a travesty of a fight. Ask any fan out there who didn't have a dog in the race and they'll tell you that **** was as entertaining as watching paint dry.
                    yep, it was up to manny to bring the fight and he didn't. flomos want to pretend that manny's fans are butthurt but they are not, at least not me and his real fans, he just didn't bring it. but yeah, that fight was awful, uglier than being kicked in the balls. if i'm not mistaken floyd defeated manny landing like 90 power punches in the whole fucking fight, 90 punches in 12 roudns. do the math, that's like 7 punches a round

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Mike D View Post
                      I feel you man, but where I'm coming from is, I just wanna see the sport of boxing do well. I'm first and foremost a fan of the sport. I get sick & f**king tired of everybody always bashing the **** out of boxing and Mayweather/Pacquiao only gave them that much more ammo.

                      A nice, entertaining fight with all that spotlight on it would've given the sport a feather in its cap.

                      Instead in the eyes of the rest of the sporting world outside of us hardcore fans, all Mayweather/Pacquiao did was throw more dirt on the coffin.
                      Boxing isn't dying, dead, or anything in between. Boxing is the only sport on the planet that routinely asks people that don't give a **** about the sport come out of their pockets, and they do it. If Floyd-Manny is the biggest boxing has to offer. Compare it to the Super Bowl, NBA Finals, World Series, or Stanley Cup Finals. How well would those events to if you asked people that couldn't care less about the outcome, or the sports in general, to pay $100 to watch those events? I doubt either would do 4.6M PPV buys. Tonight is a better example. I don't have a prediction on how well the event will do. Let's assume 500K buys. And thats a match between Canelo, who's a fringe elite at best. Matched against guy that's spent most of his career fighting club fighters. This is the NFL equivalent of what, the Dallas Cowboys against a team like the NYC Jets. How well do you think the Cowboys-Jets would do on PPV.

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