Is Anthony Joshua The New Muhammad Ali ?

[Joe Beamish]

Wlad always stayed in tremendous shape, but once you hit your 40's it doesn't matter if you jabbed and grabbed or grabbed and jabbed your whole career. Age is age, it breaks down your body naturally without you having to do anything. Wlad great conditioning might've slowed down the process for an otherwise normal person, but slowing it down isn't stopping it. I still say at 41 Wlad beats majority of the division, hell I even had him up going into the 11th with Joshua, so he is still definitely competitive.

Wlad isn't a welterweight at 41 years old. He's a mammoth heavyweight. He never needed great athleticism or cute movements to ply his trade. He stands his ground and plays a careful chess game employing a great jab and a lot of "grab." He's not coming at you with sweet little feints, waist bends and head movement. He's just going to be big, be long, use that jab, grab and hold, separate. Rinse and repeat. Thus his 41 year old body is more than capable of doing what he's done for years.

Klit also came in fully re-energized with new purpose after his lackadaisical loss in points to Fury. That's why many of us felt he would prevail.

He didn't enter that ring as a washed up fighter against Joshua. He was still a great force. Joshua didn't just outpoint him; he got off the canvas to totally destroy him.

Again. Props to Joshua for doing something really tremendous.

You can keep circle-talking if you want.

[JimRaynor]

Wlad isn't a welterweight at 41 years old. He's a mammoth heavyweight. He never needed great athleticism or cute movements to ply his trade. He stands his ground and plays a careful chess game employing a great jab and a lot of "grab." He's not coming at you with sweet little feints, waist bends and head movement. He's just going to be big, be long, use that jab, grab and hold, separate. Rinse and repeat. Thus his 41 year old body is more than capable of doing what he's done for years.

Klit also came in fully re-energized with new purpose after his lackadaisical loss in points to Fury. That's why many of us felt he would prevail.

He didn't enter that ring as a washed up fighter against Joshua. He was still a great force. Joshua didn't just outpoint him; he got off the canvas to totally destroy him.

Again. Props to Joshua for doing something really tremendous.

You can keep circle-talking if you want.

I think you missed my point, it doesn't matter what sort of fighter Wladimir was/is, and the fact that he is a heavyweight who doesn't need to use as much body movement as a welterweight, at the end of the day age doesn't care what weight you are. Your body deteriorates naturally with or without any work once you get older. This process actually starts around early to mid 30's. So yes I agree the Wlad that fought Joshua was certainly not washed up , and was highly competitive, but at the same time it wasn't a prime Wlad.

[Joe Beamish]

I think you missed my point, it doesn't matter what sort of fighter Wladimir was/is, and the fact that he is a heavyweight who doesn't need to use as much body movement as a welterweight, at the end of the day age doesn't care what weight you are. Your body deteriorates naturally with or without any work once you get older. This process actually starts around early to mid 30's. So yes I agree the Wlad that fought Joshua was certainly not washed up , and was highly competitive, but at the same time it wasn't a prime Wlad.

41 isn't the same for a guy like Wlad who outweighs and outsizes most the competition. You can't just say, "oh he's 41" like he's anybody. The physical abilities he draws upon are not eroding yet. That's why so many big athletes can still execute in later years -- like George Foreman did.

That's why you don't have 41 year old middleweights or lightweights. They can't do it. But a superheavy like Wlad, no problem. Especially when he only fights every 18 months or whatever.

You knew this. This is why you picked Klit to beat Joshua. But he didn't. So NOW you're going around saying, "Joshua barely beat an old man; it's not that impressive to do that."

Mmmkay.

[JimRaynor]

41 isn't the same for a guy like Wlad who outweighs and outsizes most the competition. You can't just say, "oh he's 41" like he's anybody. The physical abilities he draws upon are not eroding yet. That's why so many big athletes can still execute in later years -- like George Foreman did.

That's why you don't have 41 year old middleweights or lightweights. They can't do it. But a superheavy like Wlad, no problem. Especially when he only fights every 18 months or whatever.

You knew this. This is why you picked Klit to beat Joshua. But he didn't. So NOW you're going around saying, "Joshua barely beat an old man; it's not that impressive to do that."

Mmmkay.

I picked Joshua to win numerous times, I can point to the threads where I said so. I especially picked Joshua to win for the reason of Klitschko's age. He had shown it in Jennings fight and it peaked against Fury. If you think Klitschko at 41 with almost a 2 year layoff is the same fighter as Klitschko say at 35 then you're disillusioned and it's quite ironic how its you who is actually really grasping at straws to big up Joshua's victory against a clearly faded fighter.

But Since Wlad is a heavyweight and his arms are so long, and his feet are this and his body is that, that means at 41 he is in his prime!

[Joe Beamish]

I picked Joshua to win numerous times, I can point to the threads where I said so. I especially picked Joshua to win for the reason of Klitschko's age. He had shown it in Jennings fight and it peaked against Fury. If you think Klitschko at 41 with almost a 2 year layoff is the same fighter as Klitschko say at 35 then you're disillusioned and by the same token really grasping at straws to big up Joshua's victory.

Also you absolutely have 41 year old Middleweights in Bernard Hopkins, Atonio Tarver, and many others.

Bernard was great at using his superior size to stay viable and competitive -- a true exception. Huge middleweight though. It's another example, again, of using size to stay in the game as you get older and your athletic skills erode. An older Wlad is still a Wlad, still a force. I still give props to Joshua for his total destruction of a Klitschko.

[Kigali]

I think you missed my point, it doesn't matter what sort of fighter Wladimir was/is, and the fact that he is a heavyweight who doesn't need to use as much body movement as a welterweight, at the end of the day age doesn't care what weight you are. Your body deteriorates naturally with or without any work once you get older. This process actually starts around early to mid 30's. So yes I agree the Wlad that fought Joshua was certainly not washed up , and was highly competitive, but at the same time it wasn't a prime Wlad.

They want to deny that to boost Joshua.

[Kigali]

Haha you serious? Joshua would spark that midget out.


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What midget???

Ali???

Hahahaha

Get your troll game together little one.

Ali would bounce that dope-dealing mummy off the canvas with EASE.

Joshua couldn't beat Ali's spit bucket

[JimRaynor]

Bernard was great at using his superior size to stay viable and competitive -- a true exception. Huge middleweight though. It's another example, again, of using size to stay in the game as you get older and your athletic skills erode. An older Wlad is still a Wlad, still a force. I still give props to Joshua for his total destruction of a Klitschko.

Hats off to Joshua, he defeated a highly competitive and motivated Klitschko, one who was past his best, but certainly not shot. But it wasn't a total destruction, I along with many others had Wlad winning the fight heading into the 11th.

[Kigali]

Bernard was great at using his superior size to stay viable and competitive -- a true exception. Huge middleweight though. It's another example, again, of using size to stay in the game as you get older and your athletic skills erode. An older Wlad is still a Wlad, still a force. I still give props to Joshua for his total destruction of a Klitschko.

It's not like Vlad hasn't been destroyed before.

Let's not pretend he was coming off a loss and an 18 month layoff.

[Joe Beamish]

Hats off to Joshua, he defeated a highly competitive and motivated Klitschko, one who was past his best, but certainly not shot. But it wasn't a total destruction, I along with many others had Wlad winning the fight heading into the 11th.

We'll see if Wlad returns to the ring. I feel he won't. I believe Joshua finished him for good.