Who will be the bigger star: Canelo or Joshua?

[BrometheusBob.]

That's a tough one!

[SkillspayBills]

I think AJ has to come to America before he can be a bigger star than Canelo. It's there to be taken though.

[Scipio2009]

But comparing it to basketball arenas that hold 20k, or baseball stadiums that hold 50k, or football stadiums that hold 100k it's small. The venues Floyd fought were among the smallest venues in the country but he fought at them because Vegas paid out them he nose for his fights.

Floyd could of easily filled up football stadiums if he just cared about attendance, but Floyd saw the bigger picture and fought were the money is.

Just for argument's sake, how many venues in the US do you honestly believe are bigger than 16,500 seats?

To cut things short, you're talking about less than 50 indoor venues (counting the venues just built after Floyd was already 'Money" Mayweather, you're talking about less than 4 0 indoor venues).

nice try

[Tomjas]

I still think Canelo is the bigger star. The names I listed at HW are not Frazier, Foreman and Ali that he needs to beat. They aren't even Dokes, Page, and Ruddock.

If Canelo defeats the likes of GGG and Saunders to unify 160, that far exceeds anything Joshua can accomplish. Add to that the possibility of adding a title at 168, and he is the biggest star in boxing.

I think that you are confusing "star" with "performance"

Tom Cruise was the biggest star in Hollywood and has never won an Oscar

Joshua simply has cross-over star quality (looks/size/division/speaks English) whilst Canelo not so much

To put things into perspective, both are sponsored by Under Armour yet Joshua's photo has been in the stores I have visited in Sydney, Hong Kong and London recently whilst Canelo's has not

[kidbazooka]

AJ already is, and he will only be getting bigger and bigger.

Hahaha yea right

Canelo is and will continue to be the bigger star.

You pro euro cats are just plain delusional

[Scipio2009]

I still think Canelo is the bigger star. The names I listed at HW are not Frazier, Foreman and Ali that he needs to beat. They aren't even Dokes, Page, and Ruddock.

If Canelo defeats the likes of GGG and Saunders to unify 160, that far exceeds anything Joshua can accomplish. Add to that the possibility of adding a title at 168, and he is the biggest star in boxing.

A unified middleweight champion (who isn't yet conversational in English) is a bigger star than a unified heavyweight champion?

Can you even name the middleweight champion during Ali's run?

[GhostofDempsey]

A unified middleweight champion (who isn't yet conversational in English) is a bigger star than a unified heavyweight champion?

Can you even name the middleweight champion during Ali's run?

Of course, from 1970 on it was Monzon, any real fan should know that.

Hagler was MW champ during Holmes reign, and Hagler was by far a bigger star than Holmes. Hopkins was as big a star or bigger than Lewis, Bowe, Ruiz, etc.

[fvanesbeck]

UK PPVs are sold for like 15 bucks. Canelo sells ppvs at 70 bucks. Joshua fight didn't even generate as much revenue as canelo's fight with khan. Let alone canelo fight with cotto which drew about double the revenue of khan fight or the Chavez fight on sat which likely generates the most of any canelo fight except for when he fought floyd.

Joshua may of set the UK domestic ppv record but it's nowhere near the overall PPV record or the amounts generated from canelo's top PPVs.

Yes, but there's no way Canelo-Khan had anywhere near that amount of viewers worldwide. 10.4 Million viewers in Germany, around 700,000 on both Showtime & HBO, 920,000 in Poland and 1.5 million in the UK.

Also, $70 is £55, and the Joshua-Klitschko ppv was £20 in the UK. Still a significant difference, but not as much as you were suggesting.

And Joshua earned close to £15M($20M) for Saturday - at the very least on a par with what Canelo earned for fighting Khan, probably more.

[bigdunny1]

Just for argument's sake, how many venues in the US do you honestly believe are bigger than 16,500 seats?

To cut things short, you're talking about less than 50 indoor venues (counting the venues just built after Floyd was already 'Money" Mayweather, you're talking about less than 4 0 indoor venues).

nice try

Every major city had an arena bigger then that. Every NBA arena is bigger then that. Those venues Floyd fought in were flat out small and out dated suited more for concerts then major sport events. Again they are small venues but didn't matter because it wasn't about maximizing attendance. It was about selling to the highest bidding the venue that paid the most are in vegas and the ticket prices because it are higher. Most of floyd fights never even cracked the 16,500 mark. Most of his fights were at the 14-15k attendance mark.

http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/

Some of the worst NBA teams draw higher attendance then Floyd fights. Yet Floyd made more money then biggest stars in the NBA. Attendance numbers means nothing it's about revenue. If Floyd cared about selling the most tickets to break attendance records he had tons of bigger stadiums he could of fought in. But stayed in small Vegas venues to make more money it's that simple.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Canelo is the man.

Joshua, however, is a transcendent star.

A HW always has a higher ceiling. Joshua is built like a superhero, has massive power, a 100% KO ratio, he speaks well...He's in position to be the biggest name in sports.