Comments Thread For: Porter-Berto Bout Drew Average of 468,000 Viewers on Showtime

[original zero]

HBO go doesn't offer live ****** so nobody is saying it has anything to do with Nelson.

If you want to watch an HBO boxing match legally on the day the fight happens, your only choice is methods that will count towards the published number. Showtime offers multiple methods that don't count towards the published number. Artificially skewing HBO's number in one direction and Showtime's in the other.

If you want to watch an HBO boxing broadcast legally in its entirety, your only choice is to watch on TV or through a VMVPD. If you want to watch on HBO GO, you have to wait until Tuesday and you can't watch the whole show. This is done to artificially skew HBO's live number. Showtime on the other hand quickly uploads their entire broadcast to their service, artificially skewing the number in the other direction.

These are easily verifiable facts. If you want to ignore that one company is purposely making it unpleasant to not watch live while the other makes it very pleasant to not watch live, be my guest. But you look like an idiot when you analyze the live numbers without keeping that in mind.

you are pretending that if you want to watch HBO boxing you have to watch with a cable provider which was a lie.

Wrong. I'm listing several ways that HBO purposely makes it inconvenient and annoying to not watch live, to urge people to watch live.

I'm listing several ways that SHO purposely makes it very convenient to not watch live, because they don't give a **** when you watch as long as you watch.

[original zero]

... Al Haymon's confusing "free TV" experiment also impeded fans' behavior...

If it's so confusing, why did over 5 million watch Thurman on CBS, beating the NBA & NHL head to head?

[bigdunny1]

If you want to watch an HBO boxing match legally on the day the fight happens, your only choice is methods that will count towards the published number. Showtime offers multiple methods that don't count towards the published number. Artificially skewing HBO's number in one direction and Showtime's in the other.

You literally can't help yourself from lying. I posted an article 5 months ago with ESPN stating that these platforms do not count towards the ratings. Just recently sling offered ratings to be counted but on limited basis. Playstation vue, directvnow dont and only in sling depending on what device you use and if the client goes out there way to enable it. Stop phuk boy. As of last Nov sling didn't offer at all. HBO sells legal live ****** to cord cutters on all these services. Cord cutting doesn't just effect showtime. And you keep avoiding the question why did showtime boxing ratings fall so fast in 2015? And why aren't we seeing this same 50% drop in all other showtime programming if it's just because of showtime anywhere app? Just because you repeat this lie dont make it true. Haymon PBC disaster has more effect on showtime boxing ratings then any other factor I'm sorry you cry yourself to sleep because haymon lost almost a billion dollars and crippled showtime ratings in the process.

[MDPopescu]

If it's so confusing, why did over 5 million watch Thurman on CBS, beating the NBA & NHL head to head?

... QED...

(... then why wasn't Porter-Berto on CBS too?...)

[original zero]

You literally can't help yourself from lying. I posted an article 5 months ago with ESPN stating that these platforms do not count towards the ratings.

Because you're so ******, you assume I'm lying when the truth is that you posted out dated information. vMVPDs began being tracked by Nielson in 2017. The ESPN controversy went public in October 2016.

[bigdunny1]

Because you're so ******, you assume I'm lying when the truth is that you posted out dated information. vMVPDs began being tracked by Nielson in 2017. The ESPN controversy went public in October 2016.

Actually the quotes from ESPN that directly state the opposite of the nonsense you saying were Nov, 5 months ago. Show me a link stating that playstation vue, directv Now are all being tracked by Neilson? Just like 2 months ago sling started tracking but again with it being limited for such a small amount of sling customers who go out there way to turn it on by default it's off. Just admit you lied or crawl out of here like a coward.

And why you dodging ny questions why are ONLY showtime boxing ratings down 50% and not the rear of showtime programming? Do only boxing fans know how to use the showtime anywhere app? LMAO

[Banderivets]

Lomachenco ratings has been horrible on HBO but yall act like they not lol

Since when does he have bad ratings?

[original zero]

Actually the quotes from ESPN that directly state the opposite of the nonsense you saying were Nov, 5 months ago.

Five months ago = 2016. Nielson vMVPD tracking = 2017. You were too ****** to know the difference. Not my problem.

And why you dodging ny questions why are ONLY showtime boxing ratings down 50% and not the rear of showtime programming? Do only boxing fans know how to use the showtime anywhere app? LMAO

Because your question had nothing to do with what I was talking about and you continue to throw **** at the wall hoping something will stick and distract from my simple and accurate premise.

FACT: Showtime Anytime allows fights to be watched live. HBO GO doesn't.

FACT: Showtime Anytime makes the entire broadcast available. HBO GO doesn't.

FACT: Showtime Anytime quickly makes the fights available. HBO GO doesn't.

FACT: Showtime quickly replays their fights. HBO doesn't.

This is all done by HBO to artificially inflate the public number. Showtime doesn't give a **** about the public number and makes their fights as easy to watch as possible, even though it artificially deflates the public number.

Nothing you've said contradicts any of that. You're attempting to argue against things nobody has said. An argument taking place in your head between yourself and yourself.

This is what you always do. Which is why I always ignore you when you try your nonsense with me.

[JASON SHAW]

lol i think you are a wee bit paranoid.

so you are saying they have been releasing golden boy on espn 2 ratings every week? I dont think so

[original zero]

so you are saying they have been releasing golden boy on espn 2 ratings every week? I dont think so

you mean ring magazine hasn't covered how horrible the ESPN2 ratings have been?!?