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  • #71
    Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
    Yeah, he lost a couple of fights he shouldn't have. He came back and stopped both to right the mistakes.

    Holyfield (x2), Klitschko, Tyson, Ruddock, Golota, Briggs, Tua, Grant, Mercer, Bruno, Tucker, Botha, Morrison...

    He beat every man he ever fought in a great HW era. Most of these guys he didn't just beat, he either outclassed or obliterated them.

    Lewis at his best beats any HW that ever lived.
    LOL, if you want to give him the first Holyfield fight then you also have to give Vitali the win in their fight. "Golota, Briggs, Grant, Tucker, Botha"? Seriously? Journeymen count as accomplishments now?

    Liston (x2), Foreman, Frazier (x2), Norton (x2), Patterson (x2), Shavers, Young, Williams, Terrell, Lyle.

    Nuff said.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
      No its not, he's saying that Ali was the greatest man he met in and out of the ring. Again i'm not sure why you're so fixated on what Foreman has to say, I bet you will find far more ex champions saying Ali is the GOAT than Lewis. I seem to recall Foreman also calling Frazier the GOAT.
      Funny thing is, Foreman would whup Lennox's azz as well.

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      • #73
        to be ''great'' one needs to face AND BEAT ''great'' opponents.

        there are no great opponents at hw.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by chaos View Post
          LOL, if you want to give him the first Holyfield fight then you also have to give Vitali the win in their fight. "Golota, Briggs, Grant, Tucker, Botha"? Seriously? Journeymen count as accomplishments now?

          Liston (x2), Foreman, Frazier (x2), Norton (x2), Patterson (x2), Shavers, Young, Williams, Terrell, Lyle.

          Nuff said.
          You mean the fight where half of vitali's face was busted open...

          Lewis and vitali would smash any 70's fighter to prices, including 'big' George... Who wasn't very big in comparison and definitely was much slower.

          I mean that comment about a young Ali jabbing Lewis to death, the same skinny Ali who nearly lost to cooper and who was knocked out by teeny fraizer

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Kim Jong-Un View Post
            Anything to sell the narrative that, that was a past prime version of Lennox Lewis who was losing to Vitali Klitschko quite clearly before the doctor stoppage, right?

            Look at him, so fat, he looks so old here as well, lol!

            So Lennox Lewis who was in his prime at 36years old was old, fat, and slow... incredible, just mindblowing.

            Some people will just say whatever they want to push a narrative/view, I think your trolling is getting a bit old, stop bull****ting yourself.
            Lewis' prime was long gone, he wasn't prime when he beat Tyson let alone Klitschko.

            Lewis' prime was 1997-2000.

            After beating Tyson he took over a year off, was talking about retiring, set up a final fight (not against Klitschko), came in heavier than he's ever been, was 37, looked tired after 2 rounds...yet he still stopped Vitali like this;

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Idgogay4AJ View Post
              You mean the fight where half of vitali's face was busted open...

              Lewis and vitali would smash any 70's fighter to prices, including 'big' George... Who wasn't very big in comparison and definitely was much slower.

              I mean that comment about a young Ali jabbing Lewis to death, the same skinny Ali who nearly lost to cooper and who was knocked out by teeny fraizer
              No, I mean the fight where Vitali was ahead on all three scorecards and more than willing to continue. The fight that scared Lewis into retirement even though one fight before he claimed to be aging like wine.

              Ali was never knocked out by Frazier you dump truck, and he finished Cooper twice.

              One punch from Foreman, Frazier, Liston, Lyle, Williams or Shavers and Lewis would be out cold. Ali fought the hardest punchers in HW history and was never put to sleep, while Lewis was put to sleep twice by journeymen. He'd be ****d by the guys Ali fought.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                Lewis is top 3 in my opinion. It's tough to compare eras. Ali's era & the 90s were 2 very solid eras for HWs. But Foreman on numerous occasions as a commentator on the air called Lennox Lewis the greatest HW. He did say it. He also said he ducked him in his comeback & would have ducked him in his prime. Foreman was a great HW & those words came from his mouth live on HBO.
                So it's true because Foreman said it? I have given quotes where Foreman has called Ali the GOAT and that was recently. Foreman seems to flip flop with his opinions all the time.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by millcitymauler View Post
                  Funny thing is, Foreman would whup Lennox's azz as well.
                  He really would, fat old Foreman gave Holyfield all sorts of problems. Prime Foreman would have demolished the 90's heavyweights including Lewis.

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                  • #79
                    Both ll and Ali are great. Ali has better resume.
                    So its all opin ions. Ali is greater in more peoples opi ions.

                    I sometimes wonder what would have happened if ll was allowed to continue after being kno cked down by McCall.
                    He's avenged losses but never got off floor to win.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by chaos View Post
                      No, I mean the fight where Vitali was ahead on all three scorecards and more than willing to continue. The fight that scared Lewis into retirement even though one fight before he claimed to be aging like wine.

                      Ali was never knocked out by Frazier you dump truck, and he finished Cooper twice.
                      Who cares who was winning on the scorecards. When your face looks like Vitali's did, you're done.

                      Wasn't one of the Ali fights against Cooper where Cooper had knocked Ali down just before the bell to end the round, and the Ali camp used time wasting tactics to extend the time between rounds to give Ali time to recover?

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