Comments Thread For: Jacobs: GGG Not a Bogeyman, Some of His Fans Booed Decision!

[yankees7448]

1) I don't believe that for one second

2) IF that is even slightly accurate, then you guys need to demand that Golovkin stop fighting these look-good bums.....

who did Golovkin carry ?

1. You hate GGG so I know you take anything positive about him with more than necessary skepticism.

2. We do but we recognize it isn't only his fault. He was both Cotto and Canelo's mandatory. They went all Donald Duck on him. But between his desire to unify the belts at middleweight and all the young talent that should migrate up from 154 I am willing to be patient. I just hope he doesn't start having trouble making weight because middleweight should be getting a healthy infusion of talent.

As for that last part, I didn't say GGG carried anyone. But he certainly could have fought more carefully against guys like Kell Brook. I think the disciplined version of GGG we saw against Lemieux would have made easy work of Brook. But he was wilder and more reckless because he had absolutely zero respect for Brook's power.

[ruedboy]

I think you're likely right about the fan reactions

but the different perspectives are interesting

regarding the bold.....

the expectations put on Golovkin are not unreasonable, because he placed those expectations upon himself..... the guy who can beat "anyone from 154-168" should have cleaned out Danny Jacobs

Golovkin was over-rated, Jacobs was under-rated..... AND Jacobs fought the fight of his life.

It was a good win for Golovkin, just like Kovalev was a good win for Ward..... but both Golovkin and Ward left unanswered questions

I will even go this far.....

awarding that victory to Golovkin is fair, just like awarding that victory to Kovalev would have been more fair..... considering those guys were long-standing kingpins..... but, BOTH have problems respectively

GGG has Jacobs problems, and Ward has Kovalev problems

I think Sanchez made the 154 to 168 claim. If we took trainers seriously we'd be giving Spence grief for not being as skilled as Hagler, Ward for not being HW champ by the time he was 30 and Floyd for not knocking out every guy he faced (when Floyd Sr was his trainer). Trainers talk smack, they love their fighters and say a lot of things better left unsaid.
The haters would have said Jacobs was a can if GGG had ko'd him in the 4th. He got the W against a good boxer who was fighting to survive. It might have been a great fight but Jacobs fought smart and avoided going toe to toe with the smaller man.
Hopefully we'll see the Alvarez fight next and then GGG will fight the guy who'll make him the most money (like every other fighter in the game does).
All a fighter can do is beat the guys they put in front of him. Fans will always argue about resumes, like they do with Floyd"s. Golovkin's fought 37 times and won every time. I say not bad but people will disagree.

[aboutfkntime]

1. You hate GGG so I know you take anything positive about him with more than necessary skepticism.

rubbish, I just keep it real

watch.....

2. We do but we recognize it isn't only his fault. He was both Cotto and Canelo's mandatory. They went all Donald Duck on him. But between his desire to unify the belts at middleweight and all the young talent that should migrate up from 154 I am willing to be patient. I just hope he doesn't start having trouble making weight because middleweight should be getting a healthy infusion of talent.

god you're a wanker trying to peddle that rubbish

FACT #1:
the B-side, Mr "anyone from 154-168"..... totally shat the bed when he refused to be a man of his word and negotiate on weight with Canelo, and with lil old faded 153lb Cotto

FACT #2:
Mr "businessman" could have fought Cotto AND Canelo, but he CHOSE not to

it is absurd for you to suggest that the SUPERSTARS Cotto and Canelo, should hand the B-side wannabe Golovkin, a massive advantage

you are bashing Cotto/Canelo, because your guy did not have the stones to fight them LMAO

Golovkin was a b1tch when he was unwilling to be a man of his word..... and you are a b1tch for supporting that

As for that last part, I didn't say GGG carried anyone. But he certainly could have fought more carefully against guys like Kell Brook. I think the disciplined version of GGG we saw against Lemieux would have made easy work of Brook. But he was wilder and more reckless because he had absolutely zero respect for Brook's power.

right, Brook was a cherry-pick

[yankees7448]

rubbish, I just keep it real

watch.....





god you're a wanker trying to peddle that rubbish

FACT #1:
the B-side, Mr "anyone from 154-168"..... totally shat the bed when he refused to be a man of his word and negotiate on weight with Canelo, and with lil old faded 153lb Cotto

FACT #2:
Mr "businessman" could have fought Cotto AND Canelo, but he CHOSE not to

it is absurd for you to suggest that the SUPERSTARS Cotto and Canelo, should hand the B-side wannabe Golovkin, a massive advantage

you are bashing Cotto/Canelo, because your guy did not have the stones to fight them LMAO

Golovkin was a b1tch when he was unwilling to be a man of his word..... and you are a b1tch for supporting that





right, Brook was a cherry-pick

You are so full of *****. You are b!tching about GGG's side asking Ward to drop down to 164 but criticizing GGG for not dropping down to fight Canelo or Cotto. Especially since unlike the Ward situation GGG was the mandatory challenger for that MIDDLEWEIGHT title. This wasn't an optional fight for those guys. They had to fight GGG or give up the belt. Canelo chose to give up the belt like a little b!tch. And his excuse that he wasn't a real middleweight was just straight bull*****. Even at his Canelo weight he'd outweigh GGG by at least 10 pounds at every comparable stage during the fight buildup. The fight after the Liam Smith fight (who Canelo fought instead of GGG) is being staged at 164.5. That is the biggest ****ing duck in history. And I don't care if GGG came in at 147 after cutting off his legs. Cotto had no interest in fighting him. EVER.

And Brook wasn't cherry picked. He was settled on. They didn't want to lose their date after Eubanks Jr wasted their time and Brook's promoter suggested the fight. And it made sense. Considering how the next fight with Jacobs (another mandatory bout) had such problems with negotitations the fight was pushed from early December to mid-March there was no guarantee GGG would have been able to fit in a second fight if he didn't take on Brook. So cut the bull*****. You and I both know you go out of your way to make GGG look as bad as possible in any possible situation.

[turnedup]

If someone earnestly decided to go into your posting history and see how you felt about Golovkin-Jacobs September 2016 through fight night, I sincerely doubt that this was what you were saying. Just wanted to point that out.

Gennady Golovkin, after a decade as a pro fighter, steps in with a real middleweight, and has the first nip/tuck fight of his entire career, yet there is utterly no interest coming from his fanbase to set the record straight, lol.

Floyd, Roy, and Andre Ward (among other fighters) fought close fights, and then immediately went forward with rematches to end any/all doubt of who was actually better.

Golovkin and his camp have openly talked up putting off following that lead for 4-5 fight, a time frame that could end up extending for 2 years.

Feel free to go through my post history from the moment this fight was announced. You can for yourself see i'm one of the few people on here who stated this fight was going to be tougher than people were saying and even went as far as to say people are underestimating Jacobs. Clearly states where i'm from and that dude is from my hometown so i'm well aware of Jacobs, his ability and his resume as an amateur, but go through my history and find something different if you don't take my word for it.

On the topic of rematches, I don't negotiate fights cuz. Just like you don't either, considering it's K2 who the fk knows what Loeffler is doing or if in-fact he's actually doing anything at all. I've given up on that promotional company as a coherent business. Klimas should take over K2 or Loeffler should be replaced with a doorknob at this point. Golovkin should fight Jacobs again, that i'm with but its not likely to happen til after a Canelo fight. On the topic of Floyd, he's a narcisist so yeah he's going to do his rematch right away, don't hurt him none he's crippling his opponents financially every negotiation. Ward who else is he going to fight? Stevenson? LMAO good luck getting Rocnation to work with Haymon considering the owners wife sued the shhh out of Al.

[Scipio2009]

There's no way to prove whose fans booed the decision, so Jacobs can believe whatever works for him. I doubt if many Golovkin fans booed the decision, but that's just my opinion. Jacobs surprised a lot of people but he didn't do enough in the judges' eyes to win the fight and I agreed with them.

... the fight is on Youtube, the crowd can be audibly heard booing, and this was all while Abel Sanchez had picked up Golovkin as was parading him around the ring.

Let's not act like the footage is unavailable here.

[Scipio2009]

There is a lot wrong with what you said here.


1. GGG fans don't feel the need to set the record straight. Our guy won. It was a close fight that had a lot of us nervous but our guy won. We would like to see a rematch. We think Jacobs deserves it. We just don't like the talk of conspiracies coming from Jacobs camp and all the nonsensical hatred coming from people like about***ingtime.

2. GGG has fought real middleweights throughout his career. GGG has a lot of solid opponents his resume. GGG's top 10 opponents Daniel Jacobs, David Lemieux, Matthew Macklin, Marco Rubio, Curtis Stevens, Daniel Geale, Martin Murray, Gabriel Rosado, Willie Monroe, Kassim Ouma. Outside of his fights with Quillin, GGG and Pirog (he lost 2 of those fights) Jacobs' top 10 includes prospects who never panned out (Jarrod Fletcher, Giovanni Lorenzo and Caleb Traux) guys whose best days were spent in lower divisions (Ishe Smith and Sergio Mora) and a bunch of club fighters that guys like Jacobs get fed on the way up. I am not saying Jacobs wouldn't destroy GGG's opposition just as emphatically as GGG did but if you GGG's 10 best fight Jacob's 10 best GGG's side would win way more fights.

3. Floyd and Roy have also been notoriously choosy about who they fight. Sure, they fought immediate rematches against a couple guys but both also possess a long list of top tier contemporaries they never got in the ring with because there wasn't enough money on the table. And I say this as a huge RJJ fan. Before GGG, Roy Jones Jr was my favorite fighter. But there were a ton of quality opponents for RJJ at super middleweight that Roy never fought because there wasn't enough money in those fights So lets not pretend that these guys were just doing it for the sake of their honor. Those rematches were big money fights. And Ward was contractually obligated to give Kovalev a rematch. Lets stop pretending he's a war hero for honoring a contract he signed.

4. GGG tries to fight 3 times a year. If all goes according to plan he'll fight 2 more times this year (Canelo in September and hopefully Billy Joe Saunders in the fall). So 4-5 fights should still line up the Jacobs rematch sometime next year and not 2 years down the line.

September and the Fall are the same thing, though. You add that his first dogfight as a professional has him completely doing away with the Kazhakstan event that he's been pitching for the last 2 years, and I doubt that he'd have the stomach to go through with another fight after another likely dogfight with Saul Alvarez.

Andre Ward won a close but clear fight against Sergey Kovalev, and many of the folks who are now pardoning Golovkin were screaming bloody murder about the simple idea that Kovalev wasn't going to get a rematch.

A bit of consistency would be nice is all I'm saying

[Scipio2009]

I think Sanchez made the 154 to 168 claim. If we took trainers seriously we'd be giving Spence grief for not being as skilled as Hagler, Ward for not being HW champ by the time he was 30 and Floyd for not knocking out every guy he faced (when Floyd Sr was his trainer). Trainers talk smack, they love their fighters and say a lot of things better left unsaid.
The haters would have said Jacobs was a can if GGG had ko'd him in the 4th. He got the W against a good boxer who was fighting to survive. It might have been a great fight but Jacobs fought smart and avoided going toe to toe with the smaller man.
Hopefully we'll see the Alvarez fight next and then GGG will fight the guy who'll make him the most money (like every other fighter in the game does).
All a fighter can do is beat the guys they put in front of him. Fans will always argue about resumes, like they do with Floyd"s. Golovkin's fought 37 times and won every time. I say not bad but people will disagree.

Their trainers talk, but Errol Spence Jr is flying out to the UK, to challenge for his first world title, against one of the best welterweights on the planet, in front of 30k people, the champion's hometown.

Andre Ward went up to light heavyweight, did the work needed to add good size to his frame, knocked off the light heavyweight kingpin, and is positioned for some really big fights, while he waits for a possible opportunity (he's already admitted that he's never going to step in with one of the giants, but if Tony Bellew [6'3, 212lbs] were to somehow end up with a heavyweight title, I see that as a fight that Ward would take).

If you don't ever take the chance, you look like a fool

[yankees7448]

September and the Fall are the same thing, though. You add that his first dogfight as a professional has him completely doing away with the Kazhakstan event that he's been pitching for the last 2 years, and I doubt that he'd have the stomach to go through with another fight after another likely dogfight with Saul Alvarez.

Well to be honest I hope he gets the fight with Canelo and its a dogfight. I'd order the PPV and I don't want GGG blasting him out in two rounds. I want them Canelo to be a much better fighter than I think he is and for them to go to war.

Andre Ward won a close but clear fight against Sergey Kovalev, and many of the folks who are now pardoning Golovkin were screaming bloody murder about the simple idea that Kovalev wasn't going to get a rematch.

A bit of consistency would be nice is all I'm saying

I don't condone the blatent hypocrisy there. Kovalev has been *****ing a lot more vocally than Jacobs about wanting a rematch. Compared to Kovalev Jacobs has been almost saintlike about his loss.

[yankees7448]

Their trainers talk, but Errol Spence Jr is flying out to the UK, to challenge for his first world title, against one of the best welterweights on the planet, in front of 30k people, the champion's hometown.

Andre Ward went up to light heavyweight, did the work needed to add good size to his frame, knocked off the light heavyweight kingpin, and is positioned for some really big fights, while he waits for a possible opportunity (he's already admitted that he's never going to step in with one of the giants, but if Tony Bellew [6'3, 212lbs] were to somehow end up with a heavyweight title, I see that as a fight that Ward would take).

If you don't ever take the chance, you look like a fool

Tell that to Hall of Famers and legendary middleweights Carlos Monzon and Marvin Hagler. You just have to have the right opposition. But I will say this, while GGG has fought the best who've been willing to face him if he can't get guys like Canelo, the Charlo brothers, Billy Joe Saunders to get into the ring with him then he should move up in weight after breaking the defense record.