At what age would Canelo's win over Golovkin still be impressive?

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  • Chuckguy
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    #21
    Originally posted by Vegemil
    Surely nobody would talk trash about Golovkin if he lost to Canelo while being 40 years old right? Right? So my question is, at what age would Canelo be expected to win without any worry? I started off 2 years ago predicting a stoppage victory for Golovkin but now I'm not so sure. I think if the fight is hosted in 2018 I can safely bet all my stripper money on Canelo.
    Last year. Now it's just eh. It's so obvious that he waited for him to get old.

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      #22
      Originally posted by World Champion?
      I think Golden Boy know this and it does indicate that they probably weren't that confident that they could have beaten him then.

      To be fair though, the fight will be bigger now so they will make more money than what they would have in 2016. I think it's also worth pointing out that even if Golovkin has moved passed his prime, he is still close to it, whereas Canelo, based on his age, is about to come into his prime, so I think that a loss to Golovkin now would be worse because Canelo has moved closer to his prime while Golovkin has moved away from it. I don't think anyone would have criticised Canelo had he lost in 2016 but if he waits until 2019 or beyond he would not get much credit for a win but a lot of criticism for losing.

      I see this fight happening in 2018 which would be smart for both guys.




      Yeah I hear you, some good points. The longer that it takes to make the fight, sure it may make more money but the more it gives fans to make an excuse. But if it does happen in 2018 let's see then how Triple G looks in his next fight and see who Canelo fights before they make the fight. Or it may just happen this year. I still think they should've just did it last year. I'm just done waiting on this fight with the back and forth.


      If they fight this year. Canelo need not worry.

      Since he's at 160 now he definitely needs to fight the divisions best fighters. If he gets past Golovkin then:

      Jacobs
      Lemieux
      Charlo
      Eubank Jr
      Saunders
      Last edited by The Time; 04-22-2017, 12:55 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Redd Foxx
        Hard to speculate because boxing age completely relates to how they're looking in other fights.
        People are already going to discredit Canelo because of the Jacobs fight. So, no matter how good GG still is, they'll say he's past prime, unless GG were to go up and dominate 168 or something like that.

        Personally, I predict that we've got another year and a half or so before we can say GG was definitely "past prime". However, Canelo should have taken this last year if he wanted full credit from the fans.
        No bro I discredit him because this fight should have already happened and they just waited for ggg to get old we could have had at least a 2nd fight like Ward and kovo

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          #24
          Golovkin hasn't been in a lot of war so he has a lot of mileage left, but I think beating him at 39/40 is less impressive than beating him now. Remember that at 39 to 40 commentators will always mention the age and a loss is always followed by a comment like, "At 39/40 he just didn't have the goods..." and a win "he turned back the clock".

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            #25
            Originally posted by Chuckguy
            No bro I discredit him because this fight should have already happened and they just waited for ggg to get old we could have had at least a 2nd fight like Ward and kovo




            This is true as well. A rematch definitely would've happened at some point if Canelo lost.

            It should've just happened last year in September. That seems to be the theme that most of us agree on.
            Last edited by The Time; 04-22-2017, 01:33 AM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by The Time
              This is true as well. A rematch definitely would've happened at some point if Canelo lost.

              It should've just happened last year in September. That seems to be the theme that most of us agree on.
              To me it should have happened when he fought cotto and the winner earns the shot at him

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                #27
                Originally posted by Chuckguy
                To me it should have happened when he fought cotto and the winner earns the shot at him


                In May of 2016, yeah it was supposed to happen that way. Instead of wasting a fight on little glass chin Khan. If Canelo needed a tune up to adapt to 160 I would've accepted that, but against a legit 160 pound fighter and then GGG of September last year.

                But yeah we agree that it definitely should've happened last year. I thought it was going to happen after the Cotto fight. Then I was for sure that it would happen after the Khan fight, but...........SMH

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by The Time
                  Yeah I hear you, some good points. The longer that it takes to make the fight, sure it may make more money but the more it gives fans to make an excuse. But if it does happen in 2018 let's see then how Triple G looks in his next fight and see who Canelo fights before they make the fight. Or it may just happen this year. I still think they should've just did it last year. I'm just done waiting on this fight with the back and forth.


                  If they fight this year. Canelo need not worry.

                  Since he's at 160 now he definitely needs to fight the divisions best fighters. If he gets past Golovkin then:

                  Jacobs
                  Lemieux
                  Charlo
                  Eubank Jr
                  Saunders
                  The reason I don't see the fight happening this year is because I think Canelo needs to fight a good middleweight before he faces the best middleweight. The 5 fighters you listed would be ideal and I'd say likely opponents with the most likely fight being vs Lemieux.

                  I definitely agree with you that the fight would have been better in 2016 because now it is over hyped and likely to not live up to all the buzz created. I guess the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight set a blueprint on how to sell a big fight, which unfortunately means fans lose out.

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                    #29
                    It'll never happen. Candelita is getting beaten down by Chavez here shortly so it's a moot point.

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                      #30
                      Well he already missed GGGs peak by blatantly ducking him. He'll get credit if he eventually fights him, but the damage has already been done.

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