At what age would Canelo's win over Golovkin still be impressive?

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  • danceswithfire
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    #11
    dunno about you but canelita surrendering his belt to GGG is unforgivable for me for at least a decade....canelita is a b1tch in my book!

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    • Vegemil
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      #12
      Originally posted by danceswithfire
      dunno about you but canelita surrendering his belt to GGG is unforgivable for me for at least a decade....canelita is a b1tch in my book!
      Definitely didn't do him any favors.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Vegemil
        Idk. Golovkin wasn't looking too fresh in the Jacobs fight but that might've been Jacobs that caused it. He was countering shots like a man possessed.
        He didn't perform great, but I don't think it was age.
        I always predicted he'd have trouble with someone who stuck to lateral movement.
        And, Sanchez was commanding Golovkin to "wait for him to walk into it" which never happened. I honestly felt that Golovkin could have finished him if he weren't being instructed to play it safe.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx
          He didn't perform great, but I don't think it was age.
          I always predicted he'd have trouble with someone who stuck to lateral movement.
          And, Sanchez was commanding Golovkin to "wait for him to walk into it" which never happened. I honestly felt that Golovkin could have finished him if he weren't being instructed to play it safe.
          He also didn't follow Sanchez' instructions when he told him to go to the body. Golovkin barely threw any hooks to the body and that's his money punch.

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          • The Time
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            #15
            Well my thing is this. Honestly speaking a lot of people were/are claiming that Golden Boy and Oscar are waiting for Golovkin to age and get old before they put Canelo in there with him. Whether this is true or not is not what I'm getting at. It's just a matter of not giving Golovkin and his supporters, fans and also just people who say GBP is doing this on purpose an excuse to use as to why Golovkin lost to Canelo. That's why I say that the perfect time that this fight should've happened was September of last year 2016.

            Because IMO I did see Golovkin starting to look a little slower and starting to get older in the Jacobs fight. And it has nothing to do with what Jacobs did. Because Jacobs fought a really good fight and he could've fought better if he was more aggressive. And it also isn't that the fight went 12 rounds. It's just what I saw from Triple G, he looked a little bit slower and had the look of a fighter who is in the very beginning stages of starting to age.

            He still is good enough to beat Canelo. If Canelo beats G though, people will use the aging as an excuse. That's why the longer they wait to make this fight it does benefit Canelo because G is getting older.

            Regardless of who's fault it is as far as who gets paid what and other stipulations. The longer it takes to make this fight, the more Canelo is going to benefit. So I do hope they make it this year finally.

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            • The Time
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              #16
              Originally posted by Redd Foxx
              Hard to speculate because boxing age completely relates to how they're looking in other fights.
              People are already going to discredit Canelo because of the Jacobs fight. So, no matter how good GG still is, they'll say he's past prime, unless GG were to go up and dominate 168 or something like that.

              Personally, I predict that we've got another year and a half or so before we can say GG was definitely "past prime". However, Canelo should have taken this last year if he wanted full credit from the fans.



              Exactly right, this fight should've happened last year in September to eliminate any possible excuses and for full credit to be given. I agree 100%

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              • Caxcan
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                #17
                Both guys are within their physical primes so this really shouldn't be an issue unless GGG's career suddenly takes a nosedive which I don't see happening. His lackluster showing in his last fight had more to do with Jacobs representing his first real challenge and he's probably come to rely on his power too much over the years. There wasn't really a strategy or flow behind his offense.

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                • Mukuro
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                  #18
                  Personally I'd still give Canelo full credit now. We have to see how things shake out, but there is some urgency to this matchup.

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                  • bambam182
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                    #19
                    you think canelo gives a **** a$$ what you fa990ts think?

                    if waiting a couple years makes him a bigger check he will wait. he knows you ****** will buy the fight regardless.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Time
                      Well my thing is this. Honestly speaking a lot of people were/are claiming that Golden Boy and Oscar are waiting for Golovkin to age and get old before they put Canelo in there with him. Whether this is true or not is not what I'm getting at. It's just a matter of not giving Golovkin and his supporters, fans and also just people who say GBP is doing this on purpose an excuse to use as to why Golovkin lost to Canelo. That's why I say that the perfect time that this fight should've happened was September of last year 2016.

                      Because IMO I did see Golovkin starting to look a little slower and starting to get older in the Jacobs fight. And it has nothing to do with what Jacobs did. Because Jacobs fought a really good fight and he could've fought better if he was more aggressive. And it also isn't that the fight went 12 rounds. It's just what I saw from Triple G, he looked a little bit slower and had the look of a fighter who is in the very beginning stages of starting to age.

                      He still is good enough to beat Canelo. If Canelo beats G though, people will use the aging as an excuse. That's why the longer they wait to make this fight it does benefit Canelo because G is getting older.

                      Regardless of who's fault it is as far as who gets paid what and other stipulations. The longer it takes to make this fight, the more Canelo is going to benefit. So I do hope they make it this year finally.
                      I think Golden Boy know this and it does indicate that they probably weren't that confident that they could have beaten him then.

                      To be fair though, the fight will be bigger now so they will make more money than what they would have in 2016. I think it's also worth pointing out that even if Golovkin has moved passed his prime, he is still close to it, whereas Canelo, based on his age, is about to come into his prime, so I think that a loss to Golovkin now would be worse because Canelo has moved closer to his prime while Golovkin has moved away from it. I don't think anyone would have criticised Canelo had he lost in 2016 but if he waits until 2019 or beyond he would not get much credit for a win but a lot of criticism for losing.

                      I see this fight happening in 2018 which would be smart for both guys.

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