Mayweather and the conspiracy theories...

[Metho_4u]

This thread let's try to be unbiased and really think about this first, it's a question I've asked others before with no answers.

Floyd came out in 2009 or so about drug testing. He flat out did not trust that pacquaio was clean, and it had also been noted by many that the NSAC's testing was as old as dinosaurs. It was a known fact that the NSAC'S tests would NOT pick up HGH, EPO, and many other designer PEDs, it was also known the testing could easily be manipulated.

Travis Tygart took over USADAs program "Travis T. Tygart became USADA’s Chief Executive Officer in September of 2007". Anyone who knows anything about testing knows Tygart was after lance Armstrong the entire time until Armstrong finally gave up and admitted his use.

To make this short, lance Armstrong was and still is a highly popular name in the sports world, more popular imo than Floyd Mayweather is, though Floyd is still popular enough.

Tygart was after Armstrong from the beginning when he took over USADA.

The question is...if Floyd was indeed using, why would Tygart not want to put him in a situation where he could let the cat out of the bag? Money? Armstrong was worth 125 million dollars at the time. While that's not 500+ million that Floyd has, Tygart could've gotten a nice payday from Armstrong and just kept quiet right? With all of the theories about all of this, I find it hard to believe Tygart would not want to expose Floyd if there was wrong doing. Tygart would get accolades for busting some of the biggest athletes in 2 decades, and the recognition of that would be far more than the risk of getting caught with bribery.

To me, the temptation to further my career and become a hero seems like a better option than the above.

[Eff Pandas]

I heard Floyd is looking for Big Foot. Is that a conspiracy?

He's looking to sign him to a promotional deal. Nevada has already said they'd sanction Big Foot's pro debut.

[Lester Tutor]

This thread let's try to be unbiased and really think about this first, it's a question I've asked others before with no answers.

Floyd came out in 2009 or so about drug testing. He flat out did not trust that pacquaio was clean, and it had also been noted by many that the NSAC's testing was as old as dinosaurs. It was a known fact that the NSAC'S tests would NOT pick up HGH, EPO, and many other designer PEDs, it was also known the testing could easily be manipulated.

Travis Tygart took over USADAs program "Travis T. Tygart became USADA’s Chief Executive Officer in September of 2007". Anyone who knows anything about testing knows Tygart was after lance Armstrong the entire time until Armstrong finally gave up and admitted his use.

To make this short, lance Armstrong was and still is a highly popular name in the sports world, more popular imo than Floyd Mayweather is, though Floyd is still popular enough.

Tygart was after Armstrong from the beginning when he took over USADA.

The question is...if Floyd was indeed using, why would Tygart not want to put him in a situation where he could let the cat out of the bag? Money? Armstrong was worth 125 million dollars at the time. While that's not 500+ million that Floyd has, Tygart could've gotten a nice payday from Armstrong and just kept quiet right? With all of the theories about all of this, I find it hard to believe Tygart would not want to expose Floyd if there was wrong doing. Tygart would get accolades for busting some of the biggest athletes in 2 decades, and the recognition of that would be far more than the risk of getting caught with bribery.

To me, the temptation to further my career and become a hero seems like a better option than the above.

Armstrong and friends had rogue advisory on how to swag EPO during its time, that was before ''Floyd vs Manny'' were in talks as Floyd returned trying to resecure p4p status indefinitely as the world wanted Pac vs Floyd. EPO and Pac have no significance, and Olympic style testing protocols would favor Floyd over Pac's demands anyways. Flood wanted urine and blood, Dan Rafael was helping Pac shine away from NSAC rules...

Toradol was a big scandal in American sports. surely there are many other things low key used...just like in Russia they've had their methods...

In the end, knowing Pac's refusal and Toradol entrances, how could Floyd have been wrong back in 2009. Even if Pac's head wasn't bulvously enlarged (ala HGH...) within a year or two, what's wrong with blood and urine close to the fight?

[bigjavi973]

Anyone who knows anything about testing knows Tygart was after lance Armstrong the entire time until Armstrong finally gave up and admitted his use.

you are incorrect.


armstrong only got caught cuz they snitched on him.

his plan was literally fool proof.

its always someone who talks too much as the reason they get caught

[bigjavi973]

what's wrong with blood and urine close to the fight?

in pacs defense theres video of him sayin that he lost a fight and felt weak cuz they took blood outta him etc before the fight

[Lester Tutor]

in pacs defense theres video of him sayin that he lost a fight and felt weak cuz they took blood outta him etc before the fight

that was Morales 1. Brian Kenny asked if they drew blood the day of the fight. Pac said yes. In the same video, as the context is ESPN asking Pac about Floyd's testing and cut off dates. Pac in the same interview refused to blood testing even 15 days to the fight... Do Olympians have that luxury? It's an easy question. Of course they can't enforce the NSAC to be biased toward Floyd with such rules, but those are separate and private contracts between fighters. I don't see how the NSAC could intervene as long as Top Rank agrees.

So the question would be, would Pac be game to Floyd's challenge in an Olympic style testing? As Teddy Atlas said, what do you have to lose?

[bigjavi973]

that was Morales 1. Brian Kenny asked if they drew blood the day of the fight. Pac said yes. In the same video, as the context is ESPN asking Pac about Floyd's testing and cut off dates. Pac in the same interview refused to blood testing even 15 days to the fight... Do Olympians have that luxury? It's an easy question. Of course they can't enforce the NSAC to be biased toward Floyd with such rules, but those are separate and private contracts between fighters. I don't see how the NSAC could intervene as long as Top Rank agrees.

So the question would be, would Pac be game to Floyd's challenge in an Olympic style testing? As Teddy Atlas said, what do you have to lose?

word wish they didnt settle etc out of court maybe we woulda got the fight alot sooner

[daggum]

floyd would never cheat. he just wants a fair fight. he said it himself. you calling floyd a liar???

[GhostofDempsey]

No one can comment to Tygart's motives or intentions, however, USADA has breached ethical codes of conduct by selectively administering tests and granting retroactive immunity for banned substances. Tygart has also refused to answer questions when asked to identify boxing matches and boxing drug testing contracts for which USADA drug testing contracts were filed with NY or Nevada State Athletic Commissions.

Here are the facts that we know of:

Mayweather used an illegal IV hours after his weigh in for the Pac fight. A collection agent for USADA went to Floyd's home to conduct random unannounced testing and found evidence of an IV being administered to Floyd.

The contents of the IV were not illegal but the administration of those contents by IV was as per WADA rules. Floyd for some peculiar reason was granted retroactive immunity for this by USADA three weeks after the fight.

When Erik Morales tested positive for a banned substance in 2012, the USADA did not notify the NYSAC and the fight with Garcia went on anyway.

The USADA claims to test athletes all year round, however, Mayweather is somehow exempt. He only tests after his fights are announced. Hence his short notice to fight most of his opponents. Berto received only 39 days notice.

USADA refused to conduct more stringent testing for Mayweather after two occasions where his testosterone to epitestestosterone levels have been alarmingly low. This is a red flag that was ignored. Low ratio of T/E is a red flag for PED usage and suggests masking to hide those levels. So we have low testosterone levels and a needle in his arm, but no one should questions this?

VADA conducts proper year round testing, USADA does not. Pacquiao insisted on the more thorough VADA testing for their fight while Mayweather insisted on the less sophisticated USADA method...why?

[MoneyKing]

Lance & Mayweather are controlled by the illuminati.

One has to say I've been enjoying their little mini movies this last 2 weeks. Lovely Hollywood productions.