Comments Thread For: Hearn Admits Anthony Joshua Could Be Forced To Drop IBF Belt

[Ray*]

No, you are dumb as dog ****. The IBF mandatory was overdue. In the interest of maintaining the unified title, the IBF allowed Klitschko to make his WBO mandatory first (Fury), on the condition that both fighters agreed that the winner would face the long overdue IBF mandatory.

Klitschko & Fury both promised the IBF that if they won, they would fight the IBF mandatory next.

They lied to the IBF, Fury secretly sold Klitschko a rematch clause, the clause was hidden from the IBF in the contracts, and the IBF was tricked into delaying their mandatory in favor of sanctioning the WBO mandatory.

Then when it came time for Fury to make his first defense against the IBF mandatory as promised, he refused. The IBF had no choice but to strip him and if they didn't strip him, they would have been sued by Main Events for not enforcing the mandatory.

You put that out their perfectly, I was educating one idiot on here regarding this after Fury got strip of the IBF title. I can't blame them for it at all.

[original zero]

Who needs these belt? The fight between AJ and Wlad would be as big with or without these belts.

False. If it was a non-title fight instead of a unified heavyweight championship of the world fight, it would not be as big.

[original zero]

There is more linage to some belts, but there are quality issues with all of them and any 1 of the 4 belts could be held by the guy who's the clear #1 guy in a division.

So don't let the #1 guy hide behind a WBOgus belt. The marketplace has made it clear that the four recognized titles are not equal. The WBC is by far the most lucrative and respected championship in boxing. The WBO is by far the least lucrative and respected recognized championship in boxing. The IBF is avoided by the biggest stars because they know the other organizations will bend the rules for them and the IBF won't. The WBA is still a mess until they eliminate the interim and super titles.

You can make up all sorts of logic to make things easier for you but til the sport actually agrees with you it won't matter.

Promoters and networks want title fights. If they can't get them, they'll start working with a lesser organization and pretend it's a world title. That's how it's always worked. Fans shouldn't fall for it.

[Eff Pandas]

The marketplace has made it clear that the four recognized titles are not equal.

Do you have statistical proof of this? I'd be legit curious to see it.

I'd speculate the sample size of the info you're talking about is too small or too limited in real info to make much of an opinion on.

Promoters and networks want title fights. If they can't get them, they'll start working with a lesser organization and pretend it's a world title. That's how it's always worked. Fans shouldn't fall for it.

Oh yea for sure this is promoters & networks wanting something & the abc groups providing it & boxers being the most impacted personally by this need, but have the least influence in it all.

But idk what fans shouldn't fall for. Hardcore fans know the score. Or I should say most of us do as I'm sure there are some f#ckboys out there. And the casual fans don't have the time to keep up with everything involved in the clusterf#ck of boxing today so that's who this stuff is mostly for anyway.

Hardcore Fan Guy knows that Crawford is the 140 champion & probably believes that Indongo is the #2 guy in the division. They know he isn't THE CHAMPION, he's a title holder no matter how many belts he has. He would need to beat Crawford to be THE CHAMPION.

And Casual Fan Guy gots sh^t to do so he just believes whatever is on the TV, website, forum like this one or magazine if he still reads them. He's buying what the power players in boxing are saying cuz he's not that committed to boxing anyway so if boxing says this guy is a world champion then he's a world champion. But even those guys gotta be thinking "f#ck there seems to be a lot of champions these days" cuz they are just busy not ******.

So what exactly are people falling for? Hardcores & Casuals aren't f#cking ****** overall.

[aboutfkntime]

No, you are dumb as dog ****. The IBF mandatory was overdue. In the interest of maintaining the unified title, the IBF allowed Klitschko to make his WBO mandatory first (Fury), on the condition that both fighters agreed that the winner would face the long overdue IBF mandatory.

Klitschko & Fury both promised the IBF that if they won, they would fight the IBF mandatory next.

They lied to the IBF, Fury secretly sold Klitschko a rematch clause, the clause was hidden from the IBF in the contracts, and the IBF was tricked into delaying their mandatory in favor of sanctioning the WBO mandatory.

Then when it came time for Fury to make his first defense against the IBF mandatory as promised, he refused. The IBF had no choice but to strip him and if they didn't strip him, they would have been sued by Main Events for not enforcing the mandatory.

who fkn cares, the IBF mando was shht

the 2 best heavyweights were Klitschko/Fury

hmm..... so, the best hw on the planet for the last decade was Klitschko..... Tyson Fury just beat him..... so, what will we do now.....?

I know, lets strip Fury and have Martin fight Glazkov



enforcing ******ity is ridiculous

congratulations on making yourself look ****** by defending the IBF, AGAIN..... like you did on the last thread..... wtf?

they need to fix their rankings, and you need to fix your head

boxing comes first..... you thinking that IBF brain-farts are more important than boxing..... is obviously the problem

[aboutfkntime]

There is more linage to some belts, but there are quality issues with all of them and any 1 of the 4 belts could be held by the guy who's the clear #1 guy in a division.

You can make up all sorts of logic to make things easier for you but til the sport actually agrees with you it won't matter.

For me today all winning a belt for sure means is you are a top ten guy and very likely a top five guy in your division. From there there are many determinating factors on deciding who's the top guy in a division and holding more belts or certain belts doesn't necessarily make you #1 in this era. Everything is case by case now.

I think that guy is actually Charles Martin's mom

[aboutfkntime]

You put that out their perfectly, I was educating one idiot on here regarding this after Fury got strip of the IBF title. I can't blame them for it at all.

that was utter ******ity

who were you supporting in that fight, Martin or Glazkov ?

[aboutfkntime]

MOST of the problems within boxing are caused by having multiple sanctioning bodies

co-signing IBF ******ation, in favor of legitimate matchups..... is just ******ity imo

imagine if the IBF stripped Andre Ward, and mandated Barrera/Cleverly

no wait, that would probably be ok to most of you..... how about if Kovalev beats Ward, and then the IBF strip him and mandate Barrera/Cleverly..... ?

see how ******ed that would be ?

oh, and btw..... Barrera/Cleverly > Martin vs that other guy

the average " fan " will never make the best decision for boxing, will they?

[juggernaut666]

The belts arent representing the fighters ,the fighters are representing the belts so the belts are only as good as the fighter wearing it.

WBC most respected ?????????

I think they should have taken my advice and just melt all the belts together making it the Super World Belt ,it would be a giant belt of four combined belts that have all the sanctioning bodies on it and all have equal ownership on one belt . And everyone lives happily ever after .

[Motorcity Cobra]

Fury had a rematch clause. He didn't have a choice but to drop the belt. If Joshua wins there is no reason he should drop that belt. Wlad defended his mandatory's for years.