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  • JASON SHAW
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    #91
    Originally posted by esau
    you don't know how boxing works.

    It is common for most fighters, and fights to either break even, or lose money.

    That is why so few can make it in the promotion game - it takes time, and money to build a fighter to the point where they are profitable.
    im just stating facts that were laid out by golden girls own expert..... If you cant handle the facts take your salty tears somewhers else with those sad exuces...

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    • Tomjas
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      #92
      Originally posted by Shadoww702
      I still do know why he would have to fork over the entire $8.5 million and not just pay them in monthly payments some sht??? Also how old was he when he signed with them??? Was he even over 18???
      I dont pretend to be familiar with US law and only scanned the court case but from memory, he received the appropriate advice at the time and simply chose to break the contract (hence the verdict).

      Real surprise was that GBP wasnt found liable as well

      As for cutting a pay deal, I assume that he would need to negotiate with All Star for that to happen and he obviously hasnt done that

      Canelo comes across as one ****** ****

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      • Motorcity Cobra
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        #93
        Originally posted by BigStomps
        Based on that article I don't see much reason for a lawsuit. It don't look like Al Haymon did anything wrong. There's probably more to it than that but from that article I can see why it got dismissed.
        But I will disagree by Golden Boys on expert witness that most of their fighters are losing money. No way most of their fighters losing money. They probably used that tactic as a way to blame Al Haymon. IDK why or how they can blame him but no way Is that real. Golden boy is in the business of promoting Fighters and making money. Think about it.
        If your a promoter and you have 100 Fighters and only ten of them are turning a profit while the other 90 are costing you money are you gonna keep promoting them over and over? **** no, you gonna stick with the ten that making you money.
        I understand there's contracts and all that but that just don't make no sense.
        An investment. You lose money on them for a while but they may make you some money in the long run. Hearn claimed he'd never made a dime on Kell Brook until the GGG fight.

        The court case also said the only Haymon fighters making money for Golden Boy were Khan and Danny Garcia. So Haymon paid Oscar $15 mil for a bunch of fighters that had never made Golden Boy any money.

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        • JASON SHAW
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          #94
          Originally posted by shadoww702
          Black hitler!

          They also said they need boxingnews and boxingscene???

          I don't think he damaged leo's career at all??? In fact leo is on fire. I thought it was very odd having him fight in ny though??? But the returned the favor and did the rematch in vegas, nv.
          great points lol... Leo fought in new york because pbc have a long term deal with the barclays center... They pay a fee to pbc to bring big fights there.... Leo has made multiple million dollar paydays with haymon and he is not done yet... Heck leo just bought floyds lamborghini avantador also lol he is living it up.... Leo also testified in court and said he loves haymon.... Leo even named his son after al haymon.... Now thats real love.... Oscar and his minions ran a very successful smear campaign against haymon on youtube and so many boxing sites.... In the end the truth always prevails...Leo also fought in california staples center on pbc against mares.... they might do a rematch in the same location this summer! that should be another war

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          • bambam182
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            #95
            Originally posted by ESAU
            LOL WUT?? I never said GGG deserved 50/50?

            I just said that GGG is more than happy with his own bank account, I'm sure.

            I think 60/40, or 65/35 is about right.

            Don't be a fanboy.
            60/40 HAHAHAAHAH how do you justify for that?

            canelos smith fight sold more then both GGGs PPV fights ROFL. ****** ducking boy.

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            • bigdunny1
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              #96
              In 2015 when golden boy spit ties with haymon that gutted what 50-75% of their roster? Golden Boy has spent the last 2 years taking money they make from established fighters like vargas, canelo, linares, hopkins ect and reinvesting that money back in the company by signing up a ton of young fighters and top prospects. Their roster since then has grown exponentially. They were left with a few dozen fighters in 2015. Today they have according to their website list over 80 signed fighters.

              They were by design not trying to maximize their profits the last few years they were taking money mainly from canelo fights and reinvesting it back into the company to restock their roster. hoping to build and develop the next wave of Champions. Trying to create the next canelo. Young fighters don't make a company money.

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              • bigdunny1
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                #97
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                An investment. You lose money on them for a while but they may make you some money in the long run. Hearn claimed he'd never made a dime on Kell Brook until the GGG fight.

                The court case also said the only Haymon fighters making money for Golden Boy were Khan and Danny Garcia. So Haymon paid Oscar $15 mil for a bunch of fighters that had never made Golden Boy any money.
                The goal is you sign say 10 fighters pay to develop them all and hope at least 1 makes it big time and if he does he alone recoups the money spent for all 10. The more fighters you hit on the better you are in the future. Golden Boy from 2015 to 2017 turned over their entire roster with mainly young fighters and during that process still remained profitable as a company. Most promoters are losing money or breaking even as they try to develop their fighters.

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                • r1onnie2
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1
                  Another idiot. He made 13.5m to fight Khan. He's in line to make over 20m to fight chavez.
                  No not an idiot at all, Canelo got a base purse of 3.5 million and was expected to make about 13.5 million if the Khan fight did 2 million buys, it only did 600k so do the math on that. Next time do your research before you talk ****.

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                  • bigdunny1
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by r1onnie2
                    No not an idiot at all, Canelo got a base purse of 3.5 million and was expected to make about 13.5 million if the Khan fight did 2 million buys, it only did 600k so do the math on that. Next time do your research before you talk ****.
                    These are facts that were disclosed as part of the lawsuit and are public record. Canelo made over 13m for the khan fight. Maybe you should do a little research. SMH

                    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/platform/...ce-boxing-news

                    Alvarez-Khan generated revenue of $27,707,448 and was Golden Boy’s most profitable fight of 2016. Khan made $6 million and Alvarez made $13,309,664
                    Last edited by bigdunny1; 04-19-2017, 08:32 PM.

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                    • BigStomps
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by JASON bio jSHAW
                      the person that is calling golden boys own financial expert a LIAR who testified under oath in federal court is the only one doing the sucking offf... You are so in love with oscarina de la **** that even the basic facts are making you pissed.... You cant stand that a black dude who is a genius and graduated from harvard business school runs boxing.... Oscar is barely a high school graduate..... Haymons brain is like a scientist and oscarinas brain is like a dish washer... Thats the difference... The faster you realize that the sooner your obsession with boxings biggest crackhead ****** will die amigo.... Oscarina has given boxing fans nothing but rip off mismatches on ppv cards the past 3 years....
                      Look b itch I've already called you out! I don't like you cause your just a big mouth punk that likes to run his mouth! You ain't nothing but a black, **** sucking fa ggot!
                      We both live in Cali so let's meet up and deal with it! I'll show you how I get down punk! We'll post the fight on boxing scene so everyone can see how I do punk ass lames like you! So where you wanna meet b itch??

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