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  • Bjl12
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    #41
    Originally posted by SensFullViolenc
    Well, since we're both boxing fans here (apologies if you're a fighter or manager), then "ducking" is the most appropriate word. Its also a succinct, but still completely accurate way of expressing what Team Canelo is doing.

    I agree with all the reasoning you laid out as to why Canelo may not want to fight GGG. Hell, if the Jr. PPV does good money, and Canelo beats Jr. in a competitive fight, it would make great business sense to rematch on Mexican Independence Day instead of GGG.

    A short term for all this would be "ducking"
    You somehow managed to make a strong point and then make yourself look like an idiot at the same time. It's actually kind of impressive

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    • Bjl12
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      #42
      Originally posted by Kirk087
      Maybe now he will be fighting guys closer to his weight. He is a good fighter but Oscar keeps trying to say he's great.I have my doubts.
      Ditto but Canelo is entertaining nonetheless. And as far as ducking goes? Canelo fought Lara, Trout, Floyd, Cotto, Kirkland, and Angulo (people had that fight being 50/50 beforehand).

      Triple L lost to Jacobs in a very close fight and dominated a fringe Top 5 WW. And he wouldn't fight Ward after calling him out. Whose ducking who???

      Regardless I like Canelo but am not sure he's that dude yet

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      • Michael1437
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        #43
        Have to take this with a grain of salt, his trainer certainly isn't going to say he looks like **** at this weight class, have to see how he looks against Chavez who should be at 168, if he looks good, I think he makes the fight with GGG, if he struggles, that fight is going on the back burner.

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        • SensFullViolenc
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          #44
          Originally posted by Bjl12
          You somehow managed to make a strong point and then make yourself look like an idiot at the same time. It's actually kind of impressive
          You're right that I made a strong point, wrong about the rest.

          So you're only half-bad. Keep trying, you may improve.

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          • aboutfkntime
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            #45
            Originally posted by kafkod
            There was no offer to negotiate on weight because weight was not the issue .. Canelo said that himself.

            Canelo was doing exactly the same thing as BJS did .. waiting for GGG to hit his mid 30's before agreeing to fight him.

            The only difference is that BJS is honest enough to admit it and Canelo isn't.

            why are your lies - once again - so easy to expose ?


            Mr "154-168" TOTALLY REFUSED to negotiate on weight

            "Canelo and his team made it crystal clear that a fight with Golovkin would have to take place at a catch-weight of 155-pounds. Canelo's last four fights have taken place at 155, and the bout with Khan will also happen at the same contracted weight. Sanchez and Golovkin will not entertain anything less than the middleweight limit of 160-pounds. Because Golovkin is the mandatory challenger, he is under no obligation....."
            Abel Sanchez, trainer for WBA/IBO/IBF middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin (34-0, 31KOs), is not worried that his fighter will not be able to secure a fall clash with WBC middleweight champion Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez (46-1-1, 32KOs).



            so, Canelo conceded on weight

            now, Hypekin wants more money

            oh, btw..... above, I only referred to Golovkin as 'Hypekin'..... because of your dishonesty

            i hope you find that as annoying as I find your dishonesty

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #46
              Originally posted by Bjl12
              It is very odd to see how defensive and insecure some fans are. The Triple L and Sergio fans go to great lengths to smear any potential opponents (Canelo or SOG). It's really strange.

              I used to be like that during Jr high, but well I grew up :/

              that started with Pacquiao

              no respect for the sport, and no respect for the fighters

              because the Golovkin fanbase would happily burn the sport of boxing to the ground so long as Gennady could be King of the Ashes..... is why they are so disliked

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #47
                Originally posted by SensFullViolenc
                Whats hard to understand is that if Canelo isn't a real middleweight, why does his trainer seek extra credit for making 154? Liam Smith had to make 154 too.

                ALL FIGHTERS SACRIFICE TO MAKE WEIGHT.

                If Canelo wasn't a real MW, then 154 was his natural weightclass, but his trainer is acting like he made extra sacrifice to make 154.

                But I would never stand between a man and his love for a fighter, so please carry on accepting everything Team Canelo says.

                And lets not even get started on Canelo saying "No Mamadas" If he wasn't a real MW, why did he throw down a challenge to a MW?

                if "ALL FIGHTERS SACRIFICE TO MAKE WEIGHT" then Canelo sacrificing to make 154 is perfectly normal

                FACT: if you can make 154 and be healthy, then you are a JMW..... you may well be a JMW who struggles to make weight, but you are a JMW nonetheless

                if you hadn't joined yesterday, maybe you would realize that the "Canelo is a middleweight" spastics all killed themselves when they watched Canelo win a JMW title at 154 after they talked all that middleweight rubbish for MONTHS

                "I’m going to be at 160 after this fight," Alvarez told BoxingScene.com..... Canelo still holds the WBO junior middleweight title, he intends to vacate..... the plan is move up to 160 pounds

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                • kafkod
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  why are your lies - once again - so easy to expose ?


                  Mr "154-168" TOTALLY REFUSED to negotiate on weight

                  "Canelo and his team made it crystal clear that a fight with Golovkin would have to take place at a catch-weight of 155-pounds. Canelo's last four fights have taken place at 155, and the bout with Khan will also happen at the same contracted weight. Sanchez and Golovkin will not entertain anything less than the middleweight limit of 160-pounds. Because Golovkin is the mandatory challenger, he is under no obligation....."
                  Abel Sanchez, trainer for WBA/IBO/IBF middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin (34-0, 31KOs), is not worried that his fighter will not be able to secure a fall clash with WBC middleweight champion Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez (46-1-1, 32KOs).



                  so, Canelo conceded on weight

                  now, Hypekin wants more money

                  oh, btw..... above, I only referred to Golovkin as 'Hypekin'..... because of your dishonesty

                  i hope you find that as annoying as I find your dishonesty
                  You can make up as many silly names for Golovkin as you like, but you can't alter the facts.

                  Canelo never tried to negotiate with Golovkin on weight because he had no intention of fighting him.

                  Canelo has never made any offer, of any amount money at any weight, to fight Golovkin NEXT.

                  When Canelo was ordered to fight GGG next by the WBC he vacated his belt to avoid doing it.

                  That's all anybody needs to know.

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    You can make up as many silly names for Golovkin as you like, but you can't alter the facts.

                    Canelo never tried to negotiate with Golovkin on weight because he had no intention of fighting him.

                    Canelo has never made any offer, of any amount money at any weight, to fight Golovkin NEXT.

                    When Canelo was ordered to fight GGG next by the WBC he vacated his belt to avoid doing it.

                    That's all anybody needs to know.



                    who the fk cares ?

                    why do you fangirls insert that word when convenient ?

                    let me try that tactic.....

                    Golovkin vacated his pride when he refused to rematch Jacobs NEXT

                    and Golovkin told Ward..... " maybe 2017 " LOL




                    you are a liar kafkod

                    "Canelo never tried to negotiate with Golovkin on weight"

                    Canelo Still Firm on 155-Pounds For Golovkin Showdown.....
                    Mexican superstar Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez (46-1-1, 32KOs) is still standing firm on a catch-weight of 155-pounds for a fall showdown with Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin (34-0, 31KOs).


                    "We are ready to fight anyone at 155 pounds. We are very comfortable at this weight. If he wants to come to this weight we will fight anybody.”.....


                    Canelo Alvarez Tells Gennady Golovkin Potential Fight Must Be at Catchweight.....


                    "If he wants to fight with me, let him come down to 155 and I'll fight him whatever day he wants.".....
                    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/10/2...bs-boxing-news

                    Canelo Alvarez tells Gennady Golovkin 155 lbs or no fight.....
                    Canelo has made it very clear he has no intentions of moving up to 160lbs and has given GGG a message. "If he wants to fight with me, let him come down to 155


                    why lie ?

                    stop being ridiculous




                    " That's all anybody needs to know "

                    all anybody needs to know are two facts.....

                    FACT 1: Canelo conceded on the weight, because Golovkin was unwilling to be a man of his word.....

                    Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....


                    FACT 2: Golovkin shat the bed over weight when it came time to fight, and now that Canelo has conceded on the weight, Golovkin wants more money SMH




                    why can't you guys keep it real ?

                    ..... is defending Golovkin really more important than keeping your pride and integrity?

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                    • TonyGe
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Michael1437
                      Have to take this with a grain of salt, his trainer certainly isn't going to say he looks like **** at this weight class, have to see how he looks against Chavez who should be at 168, if he looks good, I think he makes the fight with GGG, if he struggles, that fight is going on the back burner.
                      On the back burner you can count on that. Hope G's team knows what their doing but it looks like Oscar will delay the fight as long as possible. They should just sign to fight Saunders and unify instead of wasting time chasing a ghost.

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