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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #81
    Originally posted by Shape up
    So floyd did 6 divisions where pacquaio did 8, lets see floyd go to MW and then SMW to achieve the same results as pacquaio did, but all the floyd fanboys See that as ridiculous, but let's face facts, pacquaio started a great deal smaller than floyd
    Pacquiao drained a great deal more weight which allowed him to fight at lower weights. Mayweather never drain 14lbs+ like Pacquiao did.

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    • therealpugilist
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      #82
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      Mayweather has been retired since 2015 and still gets talked about more than Pacquiao who is an active fighter. Mayweather will be remembered more than Pacquiao. Cry a river Pac turds.
      check mate

      end thread/

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      • therealpugilist
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        #83
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Stop making stuff up. If you review Manny's resume the same way you do Floyd's, them Floyd comes out on top. Of course that means doing the ******ed stuff you guys usually do which rational adults don't lower themselves to do.

        He lost to morales and didn't beat him until after Raheem did. You never mention this. If it was Floyd you'd mention the loss prior.

        He beat Barrera twice after he came back from retirement after jones beat him twice. With Floyd, you'd hold the retirement against Barrera and claim he wasn't prime.

        He also lost and drew with JMM. Many thought he lost each fight.!If it was Floyd, you'd point that out but don't here.

        Floyd beat everyone you said he needed to and when he did you moved the goalpost and deleted the post you made. You would never do that with Manny.

        It's ok, Floyd erased any fake analysis any PAC fan could give by winning decisively when they fought.

        damn

        that was perfect post


        bravo good sir

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        • ruedboy
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          #84
          Boxing is a sport but it's also entertainment. Floyd had great defensive skills but Manny was easily, the most exciting fighter of his era.
          Twenty years from now Floyd will be remembered but boxing fans will still be replaying Manny's fights not Floyd's.

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          • GhostofDempsey
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            #85
            Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
            Guerrero was not C rated. He was a champion in 4 weight classes, you don't accomplish that being C rated smart guy. And if you're going to accuse Floyd of leveling false allegations against Manny it is hypocritical to label false allegations against Marquez.

            Canelo was not green with 42 fights, 30 KOs, and already a pro for 8 years. You're just making a bunch of excuses now. Who did Manny beat that was elite and in their prime? Both Barrera and Morales were at the end of their rope and Morales still whooped Manny the first time they fought. Keep up the excuses.
            I'm not accusing Floyd of making false accusations, he actually made them! Good enough for you Floyd fans, so what goes around comes around. You can't have it both ways.

            Guerrero got his shot at Floyd for beating Berto. Same as Ortiz. I guess Berto somehow became the gatekeeper of the division, and staying true to his low risk formula, he allowed Berto a shot for his 49th fight, one in which fans actually walked out halfway through that snoozefest.

            Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Cotto were all in their prime versus Pac. If you claim Cotto was damaged goods for Pac, then he was even more damaged when fighting Floyd, so why does Floyd get credit for beating Cotto but not Pac? Typical hater nonsense.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #86
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
              I'm not accusing Floyd of making false accusations, he actually made them! Good enough for you Floyd fans, so what goes around comes around. You can't have it both ways.

              Guerrero got his shot at Floyd for beating Berto. Same as Ortiz. I guess Berto somehow became the gatekeeper of the division, and staying true to his low risk formula, he allowed Berto a shot for his 49th fight, one in which fans actually walked out halfway through that snoozefest.

              Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Cotto were all in their prime versus Pac. If you claim Cotto was damaged goods for Pac, then he was even more damaged when fighting Floyd, so why does Floyd get credit for beating Cotto but not Pac? Typical hater nonsense.
              That's news to me and I was there.

              No way in hell werr Cotto or Morales prime for Pacquaio. You could also argue Barrera nor Marquez were.

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              • SplitSecond
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                #87
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                I'm not accusing Floyd of making false accusations, he actually made them! Good enough for you Floyd fans, so what goes around comes around. You can't have it both ways.

                Guerrero got his shot at Floyd for beating Berto. Same as Ortiz. I guess Berto somehow became the gatekeeper of the division, and staying true to his low risk formula, he allowed Berto a shot for his 49th fight, one in which fans actually walked out halfway through that snoozefest.

                Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Cotto were all in their prime versus Pac. If you claim Cotto was damaged goods for Pac, then he was even more damaged when fighting Floyd, so why does Floyd get credit for beating Cotto but not Pac? Typical hater nonsense.
                Only one I don't agree with there is Morales. Funny though that everyone is past prime after a loss. It's amazing that Floydboys don't consider Pacquiao a absolutely shot and pointless victory over a guy with 5 losses including 3 ko's.

                It would be good if people just looked at the fights instead of making these excuses. Mosley vs Mayweather, that's past prime, even Steward couldn't stop mentioning how old and shtty Mosley looked after the 1 year layoff and no juice.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  I'm not accusing Floyd of making false accusations, he actually made them! Good enough for you Floyd fans, so what goes around comes around. You can't have it both ways.

                  Guerrero got his shot at Floyd for beating Berto. Same as Ortiz. I guess Berto somehow became the gatekeeper of the division, and staying true to his low risk formula, he allowed Berto a shot for his 49th fight, one in which fans actually walked out halfway through that snoozefest.

                  Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Cotto were all in their prime versus Pac. If you claim Cotto was damaged goods for Pac, then he was even more damaged when fighting Floyd, so why does Floyd get credit for beating Cotto but not Pac? Typical hater nonsense.
                  If guys like you continually use an "enhanced negative lens" to examine Floyd 's resume, you shouldn't get mad when people return the favor when looking at Pac's resume.

                  It's not that Manny doesn't get credit for Cotto, he does. However, if we use the "enhanced negative lens" you are using, then its fair to point out Cotto was at 145 and was drained and Margs beat him first, likely using illegally loaded handwraps.

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                  • Larry the boss
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Shape up
                    Between floyds loss to corrales, injecting his hands and the IV it has to go to pacquaio, 8 division world champ coming from a country that really hasn't produced many world champions
                    ****ing casual....lol

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by SplitSecond
                      Only one I don't agree with there is Morales. Funny though that everyone is past prime after a loss. It's amazing that Floydboys don't consider Pacquiao a absolutely shot and pointless victory over a guy with 5 losses including 3 ko's.

                      It would be good if people just looked at the fights instead of making these excuses. Mosley vs Mayweather, that's past prime, even Steward couldn't stop mentioning how old and shtty Mosley looked after the 1 year layoff and no juice.
                      The problem is guys like you said Floyd was afraid to fight him prior to the fight. You said he was better than Floyd as well. Then when Floyd beat him so decisively, then you decided to say he was old and shot.

                      Same with Manny. You claimed he was going to beat Floyd and that Floyd was afraid to fight him. FLoyd wins and then Manny is shot. Floyd retires, Manny reclaims the WW crown and you and his other fans claim he is by far the best WW in the world. Most rankings have him in the top 5-6 p4p.

                      Guys like you get done in by your own warped logic. Then you try and backtrack or change your position after Floyd wins. Maybe if you guys were just honest about the situation you wouldn't have to do this.

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