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— Sergey Lipinets (@unionsamurai) April 16, 2017
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Oh no you're right. It could be like you're saying.
Random rant: I gotta say being a boxing fan is so frustrating sometimes. I'm a fight fan, a combat sports fan ultimately, boxing just happened to be my first love & the thing that got me into the world of fighting. And there are like 5 or 6 top 10 guy vs top 10 guy fights on the next big UFC PPV (& I think 3 or 4 last night) & I don't think I can recall a time when there were 5 or 6 top 10 guy vs top 10 guy fights in boxing in 3 months let alone in one night. Boxing is such a huge clusterf#ck of dumbness & works in a way counterproductive to current & future fans.Comment
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UFC rankings are fake. They do their own rankings. Would you trust Bob Arum if he ranked the top guys in boxing and all of them were Top Rank fighters? Of course not. So why trust the UFC when all the top guys in their rankings are UFC guys? MMA needs independent rankings so the UFC can stop pulling this shamComment
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There are indie rankings in MMA just like in boxing. Fight Matrix is like the Boxrec of MMA. ESPN gots boxing & MMA rankings. There are a bunch of cats doing indie rankings that include non-UFC leagues just like boxing has.
It just so happens to be that the UFC gots the best guys thus you can prove you are the best easier. But thats just like in boxing. A talented kid with Arum, Oscar or Haymon is gonna get more exposure to get seen, get better fights &/or ranked then a guy equally talented, but not with a major promoter.
And at best you're splitting hairs with rankings & its a losing debate for you that MMA doesn't put on more competitive fights at the elite level down to the guys turning pro level in any time frame we could use as a control group.
Amateur boxing is more competitive than amateur MMA doe I will say, but amateur MMA hasn't been around THAT long & its only a matter of time before that gets better structured I'd speculate.Comment
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UFC is a catch-22
Fans end up with all of these stacked cards, but the actually fighters getting their faces beat in end up getting only 15%-25% of the money, even after all of the different bonuses.
Boxing is a cluster****, but the frame of it is right, imo. People hate on the man, but Haymon's PBC effort seems to have done away with a ton of the bad, and helped highlight a lot of the good of boxing.
Business is business, but we're getting Porter-Berto, Brook-Spence, Joshua-Klitschko, a likely Thurman-Garcia rematch, Ward-Kovalev, and a bunch of other truly compelling fights.
There are folks who don't want to follow the lead, but those folk are in the minority and largely obsolete at this point.Comment
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Yea at my core I don't really give a f#ck how much money anyone else is making, boxer, MMA guy, NFL guy, small businessman, cashier at my local grocery story or what have you. I understand how money works & that some people are deemed to be worth more money than others....but it doesn't add or take away from my enjoyment or dislike of something.
Couldn't disagree more that boxing has the right frame. Every sport people care about has 1 major league, sometimes in different countries, that runs things. Thats what boxing needs. And I don't mean like the WBC or local commissions. I mean someone legit running things not just one aspect of things & then some other guy over here running some other things & everyone else just moving the ball outside of the boundaries of where the actual game is being played at.Boxing is a cluster****, but the frame of it is right, imo.
[quote]People hate on the man, but Haymon's PBC effort seems to have done away with a ton of the bad, and helped highlight a lot of the good of boxing.
I'm a Haymon fan, but I don't think anything Haymon has done can't be changed on a dime & idk that he's done a whole lot of good for boxing yet or that couldn't be altered tomorrow if there are things one can name.
Yea its a good year so far. But there are still so many fights not happening cuz of the cluterf#ck of business in boxing. I just wanna see mfers fight I don't give a f#ck about Oscar's, Arum's or Haymon's life goals or beefs.Business is business, but we're getting Porter-Berto, Brook-Spence, Joshua-Klitschko, a likely Thurman-Garcia rematch, Ward-Kovalev, and a bunch of other truly compelling fights.Comment
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